gravelyctry
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I've got a 22LR single six, but a double action would be so much nicer to load for me (my right hand got mixed up in a table saw accident a few years ago.) Does anyone make a 22LR/22Mag double action revolver? Thanks, Neil
22LR double action revolver?
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dfariswheel
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No.
In years past, a maker like S&W or Colt might make a very limited run of revolvers set up for .22LR and .22 Magnum, and they made them up on custom orders.
The problem with double actions is, you can't just drop in a cylinder like with a single action.
What's needed is an entire cylinder, ejector, and crane assembly, and that gets expensive.
I would imagine that the S&W Performance Shop would build you a gun as a custom job, but cost will probably be high.
A custom .22LR/.22 Magnum S&W Model 617 would be a very nice gun.
In years past, a maker like S&W or Colt might make a very limited run of revolvers set up for .22LR and .22 Magnum, and they made them up on custom orders.
The problem with double actions is, you can't just drop in a cylinder like with a single action.
What's needed is an entire cylinder, ejector, and crane assembly, and that gets expensive.
I would imagine that the S&W Performance Shop would build you a gun as a custom job, but cost will probably be high.
A custom .22LR/.22 Magnum S&W Model 617 would be a very nice gun.
precisionshootist
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I think he's asking about a 22LR OR 22mag double action, not both on the same frame like the convertable single six.
If that's the case S&W, Taurus, Even ruger it think (sp101) still make double actions in 22LR. Even out of production versions are easy to find. Colt made some of the coolest with the Diamondback and Trooper in 22lr. lots of smiths available like the 617 comes to mind. Check Gunbroker to get some ideas.
If that's the case S&W, Taurus, Even ruger it think (sp101) still make double actions in 22LR. Even out of production versions are easy to find. Colt made some of the coolest with the Diamondback and Trooper in 22lr. lots of smiths available like the 617 comes to mind. Check Gunbroker to get some ideas.
Sunray
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"...Does anyone make a 22LR/22Mag double action revolver?..." You can have one or the other. As I'm sure you know, you can't shoot lr's out of a magnum and certainly not the reverse. The bullet diameter is slightly different too.
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You can find some S&Ws out there that have a spare cylinder for the lr or mag, a good one to find is a model 63.
There are arguments about shooting 22 mag thru a Long Rifle barrel.
I would find a 22 mag gun and use Paco's accuriz'r to upset the diameter of a 22lr to .224.
There are arguments about shooting 22 mag thru a Long Rifle barrel.
I would find a 22 mag gun and use Paco's accuriz'r to upset the diameter of a 22lr to .224.
ThomasT
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The case diameter of a .22 mag is larger the the case diameter of of the standard round. You cannot shoot the regular 22's in the mag cylinder, they will split. I know, i've tried.
theNoid
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If you don't mind buying used, and keep your eyes for good specimens, you might be happy with one of the following:
High Standard (high sierra, double nine, etc.)
Harrington and Richardson (686, maybe others)
Otherwise, my vote is to get yourself a nice S&W 617 plus a matching 648 for the magnums. Yup, that's what you should do...hehe
The case diameter of the magnum is indeed larger, and they are straight for that matter, whereas the lr case aren't so it seems. As for the bullet diameter differences mentioned above, here are some results I found on the net, not sure who did them but I can assure you I will be getting out the digital calipers myself and doing some measurements. It seems to me that the wmr rounds are more consistent, but it also appears that the lr rounds, can be larger and or smaller than the wmr, depending on the brand and model you buy.
The Caliper Test
10 random cartridges were selected from each box of ammunition.
CCI Maxi Mag .22 WMR
.223
.223
.223
.223
.223
.223
.223
.223
.223
.223
(all but two were perfectly on the .223 line)
Winchester Super Speed .22 WMR (circa 1960's)
.223
.224*
.223
.2235
.224*
.223
.224*
.223
.223
.224*
(* = the .224 numbers are all actually a hair under .224, but greater than .2235)
CCI Mini Mag .22 LR
Diameter closest to case / Widest Diameter near start of ogive
.222 / .226
.222 / .225
.221 / .224
.222 / .225
.222 / .225
.221 / .226
.221 / .224
.221 / .223
.221 / .226
.222 / .226
Federal .22 LR 550 Round Value Pack
Widest diameter near case
.224
.223
.223
.223
.224
.223
.224
.223
.224
.223
(almost all .223 numbers +/- .0005, but some were dead on)
Remington Thunderbolt .22 LR
Widest diameter near case
.2245
.225
.2245
.225
.224
.224
.225
.2235
.225
.225
Federal Lightning .22 LR (red box)
Widest diameter just before ogive
.224
.224
.2235
.2225
.224
.224
.222
.2225
.223
.223
Noidster
High Standard (high sierra, double nine, etc.)
Harrington and Richardson (686, maybe others)
Otherwise, my vote is to get yourself a nice S&W 617 plus a matching 648 for the magnums. Yup, that's what you should do...hehe
The case diameter of the magnum is indeed larger, and they are straight for that matter, whereas the lr case aren't so it seems. As for the bullet diameter differences mentioned above, here are some results I found on the net, not sure who did them but I can assure you I will be getting out the digital calipers myself and doing some measurements. It seems to me that the wmr rounds are more consistent, but it also appears that the lr rounds, can be larger and or smaller than the wmr, depending on the brand and model you buy.
The Caliper Test
10 random cartridges were selected from each box of ammunition.
CCI Maxi Mag .22 WMR
.223
.223
.223
.223
.223
.223
.223
.223
.223
.223
(all but two were perfectly on the .223 line)
Winchester Super Speed .22 WMR (circa 1960's)
.223
.224*
.223
.2235
.224*
.223
.224*
.223
.223
.224*
(* = the .224 numbers are all actually a hair under .224, but greater than .2235)
CCI Mini Mag .22 LR
Diameter closest to case / Widest Diameter near start of ogive
.222 / .226
.222 / .225
.221 / .224
.222 / .225
.222 / .225
.221 / .226
.221 / .224
.221 / .223
.221 / .226
.222 / .226
Federal .22 LR 550 Round Value Pack
Widest diameter near case
.224
.223
.223
.223
.224
.223
.224
.223
.224
.223
(almost all .223 numbers +/- .0005, but some were dead on)
Remington Thunderbolt .22 LR
Widest diameter near case
.2245
.225
.2245
.225
.224
.224
.225
.2235
.225
.225
Federal Lightning .22 LR (red box)
Widest diameter just before ogive
.224
.224
.2235
.2225
.224
.224
.222
.2225
.223
.223
Noidster
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Other than single actions and the Smith from years ago (mentioned above) which are extremely difficult to find, you are pretty much limited to buying a separate double action revolver for either the 22WMR or the 22LR. Personally, I'd look for a used Colt Trooper Mark III which was produced in both calibers. Get the 22LR first. You may decide not to get the 22WMR. One of the better 22LRs available was the Smith Model 17 or 18 or the current 617 model.
theNoid
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dfariswheel mentioned:
I agree all too much my friend and have been looking into such a thing. Also, to the original poster, considering your right hand issues, there is a guy making and selling speed-loaders for the 10-rounder version of the 617.
Sign up over at rimfirecentral.com and do a search for user DS-10-SPEED, this pic is one of his 617's and several of his speedloaders.
Noidster
I agree all too much my friend and have been looking into such a thing. Also, to the original poster, considering your right hand issues, there is a guy making and selling speed-loaders for the 10-rounder version of the 617.
Sign up over at rimfirecentral.com and do a search for user DS-10-SPEED, this pic is one of his 617's and several of his speedloaders.
Noidster
Okiecruffler
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Or you could go with something like this...
weregunner
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H&R and NEF made 9 shot revolvers of various types. H&R made a 999 Sportsman in various guises that was a breaktop model.The others models,newer ones at that,were swing out cylinder models.Yes, there were some 'cowboy loading gate,load one at time' revolvers made.
905,603, and various other models can be had on the use market.
NEF made a R92 in .22lrf that is a swingout cylinder model. Their premier model was called the Ultra revolver. Any of these models can be bought as .22lrf and there is a duplicate revolver in .22 magnum.6 rounds only for the .22 magnum though.
HKS makes a nifty speedloader that holds the nine rounds securely and
makes loading easier.
If interested Taurus makes a model 94 in either blue or stainless steel. There are shorty barrels or the regular 4 and 5 inch models. Hold 9 rounds of .22lrf.
HKS 9 round speedloaders work as well for this revolver as they do for the H&Rs and NEFs.
The 941 is a 8 shot .22 magnum revolver. No speedloaders made for this one.
Taurus 94 is my understudy gun to my .357 magnum revolvers. About the same heft and ballance as the centerfire revolvers, but cheaper to shoot.
Since getting the practical aspects of shooting down is the main mission and so is staying proficient, the .22lrf fills the gap. I can go longer with shooting sessions for a fraction of the cost of centerifre ammo.And accomplish anything I could with the rimfire.
I do fire enough of the centerfire rounds to stay up to speed.
Just some things to consider.
905,603, and various other models can be had on the use market.
NEF made a R92 in .22lrf that is a swingout cylinder model. Their premier model was called the Ultra revolver. Any of these models can be bought as .22lrf and there is a duplicate revolver in .22 magnum.6 rounds only for the .22 magnum though.
HKS makes a nifty speedloader that holds the nine rounds securely and
makes loading easier.
If interested Taurus makes a model 94 in either blue or stainless steel. There are shorty barrels or the regular 4 and 5 inch models. Hold 9 rounds of .22lrf.
HKS 9 round speedloaders work as well for this revolver as they do for the H&Rs and NEFs.
The 941 is a 8 shot .22 magnum revolver. No speedloaders made for this one.
Taurus 94 is my understudy gun to my .357 magnum revolvers. About the same heft and ballance as the centerfire revolvers, but cheaper to shoot.
Since getting the practical aspects of shooting down is the main mission and so is staying proficient, the .22lrf fills the gap. I can go longer with shooting sessions for a fraction of the cost of centerifre ammo.And accomplish anything I could with the rimfire.
I do fire enough of the centerfire rounds to stay up to speed.
Just some things to consider.
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