.22lr MEGATHREAD

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24.99 that is still high to me.

Since this is about half what I can reload hard cast lead 9mm, its the threshold for when I start buying again. But one box is not worth the drive to a store. I did get five boxes at a gun show for this price a while back, that was my first sign things may finally be getting better.

Because its remy golden bullet and its a last resort for many shooters.
This, and that is what I got five boxes of, and why I didn't buy more. I'd given up on it years ago, but never did try the "improved" version that came out a bit before Sandy Hook. What I bought has been much better than what I'd stopped buying, but I still prefer the Federal bulk pack.


The big chains often have "loss leaders" something in demand that they sell at basically break even or a bit less in hopes of getting you into the store and you getting something else as long as you are there -- its part of their advertising budget.
 
I tend to agree with most about excessive prices for things when most of the situation was caused by politics... In the end though if it means allowing a favorite weapon to sit idle, if it were me I'd take a deep breath and buy what's needed at the best price I can find -even if I know it's a rip...
 
Right now this ammo shortage still has me mad. Tons of stores 125 miles+ from here have stacks of bricks of 22 for 22-25 dollars a brick.

There are 5 stores in my small town of 30,000 that carries ammo, they get cleaned out of 22 the second it hits the shelves.
 
If you can find it [and need it] get it. I've resorted to only buying subsonic to shoot. I bought all of my nephews, niece, brother-in-laws, and father-in-law bricks when I could. I have about 2000 myself (more than enough).

I work at Academy part time and I can say, now that the holidays are over we aren't getting as much as we did around Black Friday and Christmas. When we do get it, its usually 50 rnd boxes. Rem 22 Thunderbolt for 2.49, Aguilla Match for 4.99 all the way up to Federal Ultra Match for 19.99/50.

I can at least vouch for the Valdosta Academy, when we get ammo it goes out as soon as we get it, all of it. I know of guys working at the local Wal-Marts rat holing it for when they get off or for their buddy's. When I buy its off the shelf after my shift. Integrity first!
 
That's $.055 out the door for about the cheapest ammo made. It certainly isn't a great price but it's not bad for purely plinking ammo. It isn't in my top 10 list for plinking ammo but I have a bunch of it and it does what it is supposed to do. I prefer Federal or Blazer for the bulk "cheap" ammo but finding it is almost impossible.

I too remember bulk 22 at $14.99. I have heard about it below $10 but that must have been before I started shooting so much. 20 years ago I could go all year on a couple of hundred rounds.
 
I have still not seen a single box of .22 for sale in over 2 years. I have about 3000 rounds of Aguila left, but it doesn't cycle my Ruger MkII 100% reliably like CCI does.
 
I will add one thing about shipping charges for internet orders.
If you drive by one of the big stores on a regular basis then shipping charges may seem too high but, if you are like me and live 30 miles from Cabela's or Gander, then a $15 shipping charge isn't a big deal. Five years ago I would have agreed with you. Why pay $15 to have something shipped when I can pick it up myself for free? That was when Walmart and every LGS in town had all the ammo I wanted for a reasonable price and no limits. I could stop by the local Money Mizer Pawn and pick up 2,500 rounds of bulk 22 at a good price on my way to the grocery store.
Fast forward to "The Panic of 2012". Now I can stop in 15 different local stores and not find a single box of 22 ammo at ANY price, OR I can overpay for whatever ammo they do have in stock. At $3 a gallon for gas ( I know it's $2 today but that is an aberration) it doesn't take much to burn $15 in my F-150.
I have pulled in over 5k rounds of Federal 325 packs and several hundred rounds of Match type ammo over the past month and all of them were sitting on my porch when I got home. Since December of 2012 I have not seen a single box of 22 ammo at a big box store. I have seen some at the LGS for way too much money. Buying online means no driving, no dealing with the Walmart counter "gun guru", or hassling with traffic driving to Gander Mountain. No walking a mile in WM to verify that they are out of ammo (again).
I would much rather support my LGS (believe me I do support them all I can) but, until ammo becomes more readily available I will continue to buy online and pay those shipping charges.
 
The Bass Pro in Harrisburg ,pa,have NO 22 ammo.no 380 ammo of any kind, all of the reloading anything is way over priced, the only 22 ammo they had were a Door buster on black Friday, people were in line waiting at the door, for a 5 am.opening, since 1am,for 1 box of 22.winchester,500 rounds, when they doors open, they were running,
 
The Bass Pro in Harrisburg ,pa,have NO 22 ammo.no 380 ammo of any kind, all of the reloading anything is way over priced, the only 22 ammo they had were a Door buster on black Friday, people were in line waiting at the door, for a 5 am.opening, since 1am,for 1 box of 22.winchester,500 rounds, when they doors open, they were running,
 
To be honest, I've never found their prices to be cheap. Great that they have .22 at a price you're happy with, but the rest of their ammo is not cheap.
 
24.99 is actually a good price depending on what part of the country you are in.
10 cents a round has become the standard out here. Would love to see the 5 cents a round!
 
My son just picked up a brick of CCI Blazers at a local department store for $34.95 plus sales tax. A couple of weeks ago, I snagged a 325 round of Federal Auto Match for $16.95 at a local hardware store. I find these prices far more palatable than our small local gun store whigh is charging $89.95 and $64.95 for the exact same products. I too, lament the passing of the $15 brick of .22 lr that seems like only yesterday was widely available, but now appreciate the opportunity to buy at .06 per round. And yes, I still have a couple of bricks marked at $9.99, but they are from my youth. (CCI Mini-Mags, no less!)
 
If I came across a bulk pack for 25 bucks, I would buy it in a heartbeat. Where I live, I have been able to buy exactly two boxes, 100 each, in the last two years. I have heard rumors of its existence, but as far as I can actually prove, there is no more 22 being made. I am glad I had a reasonable supply on hand before its extinction.
 
If I came across a bulk pack for 25 bucks, I would buy it in a heartbeat. Where I live, I have been able to buy exactly two boxes, 100 each, in the last two years. I have heard rumors of its existence, but as far as I can actually prove, there is no more 22 being made. I am glad I had a reasonable supply on hand before its extinction.
 
I bought one bulk box of Remington Golden Bullets a couple of years ago because they did not have Federal or Winchester bulk .22LR. It was the worst .22LR ammo I ever shot. I had a lot of misfires - some would fire after turning the case in the chamber, others would never fire. The bullets were not crimped tight and would easily turn in the case. They were also very dirty to shoot. I would not take them if they were giving them away.
 
Why do you guys keep calling it a "ammo shortage"?? There is no shortage, there is only a over abundance of mall ninjas and hoarders waiting at every retailer to clean the shelves off before anyone else has a chance to get any, not to mention the *********s who buy it only to put it online for triple the price :fire:. Ammo companies are cranking out more than ever, and to me a shortage is the product not being produced, which is not the case at all.
 
Why do you guys keep calling it a "ammo shortage"?? There is no shortage, there is only a over abundance of mall ninjas and hoarders waiting at every retailer to clean the shelves off before anyone else has a chance to get any, not to mention the *********s who buy it only to put it online for triple the price :fire:. Ammo companies are cranking out more than ever, and to me a shortage is the product not being produced, which is not the case at all.
I'm sorry, but I'm an FFL and I NEVER see 22lr even at the DISTRIBUTOR level ... much less retail. All I've seen recently is something like "Buy 5 AR's and we will -let you- buy 5 bricks of 22lr (never mentions a price, and it's some off brand I've never heard of)

I for one would sure like to know where the multi-millions or rounds a day allegedly being produced have gone for the last two+ years.
 
I work part time at the local Cabela's, since Dec. 19 of last year, we haven't had ANY .22's come in ! There are folks waiting at the door when the place opens, it looks like the Oklahoma land rush when they do. Our bosses said they have ordered the stuff, but the trucks never have any onboard. ??? knows why we can't get any.
 
.22LR ammo is commonplace here in central NC, the gun store I was at yesterday had shelves full with the notation "Limit 2,000 Rounds Per Customer". I even bought 10 boxes on the Outer Banks in Frisco, NC two weeks ago, and that's an island. But, prices are still higher than they should be.
 
My S-I-L has accumulated over 8k in the past year, besides what he's shot up. Just gotta keep on the notification list from the big ammo places.

I've gotten probably 2k.

When it's available (a) you gotta pay the price, and (b) you gotta jump on it NOW

I see guys that post "it was 8 cents a round and I'm not gonna pay that.....couple years ago it was ninety nine cents for 50 rounds". Well, this isn't a couple years ago, it's today. So, pay it and shoot or don't pay it and don't shoot.
 
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Because its remy golden bullet and its a last resort for many shooters. I wouldnt buy it at $10 a brick unless absolutely mothing else was available under $50
That's fine, more for me. I was burning through 2000-3000rds of the stuff a month before the hoarding started.
 
There is no justification in paying a higher price, other than stupidity.


I'm not an economics major, but here is my take..

1. When people felt there was going to be civil unrest and a major gun grab, they cleaned the stores out of ammo; 22 is cheap so it was cleaned out en masse.


2. The shortage thus began when manufacturing levels could not keep up with the almost instant large demand.

3. When demand ramped up, so did production.

4. However once the dust settled, it's not a shortage issue, it's an availability issue.



There is no true "Shortage" of 22, in fact factories in the US churn out millions of rounds PER DAY.


The US government has pretty much stopped using 22lr years ago, except for maybe seldom usage in training here and there.

So government buy-ups of other calibers in the millions does NOT affect 22, despite what some people proclaim.

The issue with 22 are people buying it, and re-selling it.

In the wake of the 22 "Shortage" tons of online ammo stores opened up overnight and began selling ammo at stupid prices.



Since these stores have tons of money, they keep a tight grip on the availability of the ammo, no shortage at all.


Since 22 is still pretty scarce, people have no choice but to pay double, triple, even quadruple "normal prices" for bricks of 22.


Since people want it, and have no other choice, they pay the higher price.

So it all boils down to greed, people are buying the ammo with no other intention that to sell it at a higher price.

It's a classic case of highway robbery.

If people stopped, used common sense, and did not pay these inflated prices, I can guarantee you the price would fall back to "normal" levels.

Hell, I don't care if I age 30 years before I fire one round through my brand new Marlin 60.

The more support people give by being idiotic and paying inflated prices, the longer this "shortage" will last.

It would be no different if someone bought all the dollar bills in this country and started charging people two dollars for them.

If you look at it that way, the whole idea of paying twice to three times the actual value of a product is dumb.

It makes no sense to support your idea with the statement of "Welp, if this is the price I gotta pay, it's the price I gotta pay".

I cannot justify paying that much for 22, other than if I wanted to be foolish and bought it for 15 cents a round.

Once people put their thinking cap on and think "gee, maybe overpaying is stupid after all"...

..the prices would come down and you would start seeing it on the shelves for under $25 a brick.

Stores get ammo from distributors or manufactures who ship them "orders" of most likely 1000 bricks at a time.

If a "middle man" is ordering ammo and will pay higher, the distributor will sell to the higher price order than the stores.

That's why you don't see it on the shelf, and stores aren't getting any.

These online ammo stores that sprung up almost overnight, are paying more, shorting the stores out of supply, and charging more for the common person.

If Walmart, Gander Mountain, etc orders ammo at 3 cents a round, and "Joe Middleman" orders it at 7 cents a round, who do you think will get more shipments?

Quit overpaying for ammo, drive the middle men out of business, and you will see it cheap and plentiful.

Just my $0.02
 
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