Catpop
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I'm running low of 2400. Gee I hate it when that happens! I have RD, 231, HP38, Nitro 100, AA5, Clays, BE. What should I go to? If not listed, what would you recommend? Thanks in advance, catpop
2400 getting low, whats next in line for 357 and 44 mag
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Depends on if you want full house magnum loads or just range target use??
I like HP38./Win231 You can get pleasant loads to shoot but not full magnums.
BE is kinda fast for 357 Mag
Edit: AA 5 would be good also by the burn rate. I have never used it but have used the HP38
I like HP38./Win231 You can get pleasant loads to shoot but not full magnums.
BE is kinda fast for 357 Mag
Edit: AA 5 would be good also by the burn rate. I have never used it but have used the HP38
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Magnum Shooter
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You might be able to find some IMR 4227, it's great for the mag loads.
Mad Chemist
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Nitro 100 is way too fast for .44mag. I use it for bunny fart loads in .380, 9x19.
oldpapps
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Of the 'also have' powders you list, the only one I have had any dealings with is 231/HP38. It is too quick for Magnum use but I have gotten to 1126 FPS before I got into pressures being exhibited. I backed off to 1116 FPS for no pressure signs (that was a 1/2 grain change). No leading with either but I was using the same 240 grain cast lead that I push with 2400 to a bit faster velocities, also with no leading. 
zxcvbob
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None of those are really ideal. BE will work with light bullets... and I've heard of people using 231 in magnum cartridges...
Can you find any AA#7? How about Herco or Power Pistol?
800X ought to be good (I haven't tried it) if your powder measure can handle Wheaties.
4.5 grains of Red Dot with a cast 148 grain DEWC in .357 Magnum brass is fun (and cheap) to shoot. And you have some RD.
Can you find any AA#7? How about Herco or Power Pistol?
800X ought to be good (I haven't tried it) if your powder measure can handle Wheaties.
4.5 grains of Red Dot with a cast 148 grain DEWC in .357 Magnum brass is fun (and cheap) to shoot. And you have some RD.
gamestalker
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IMR-4227 is good.
Or if you like em full tilt magnum, jump onto the 296 / H110 band wagon, as I have for decades. Nothing says "magnum" quite like that of a flaming barrel.
GS
Or if you like em full tilt magnum, jump onto the 296 / H110 band wagon, as I have for decades. Nothing says "magnum" quite like that of a flaming barrel.
GS
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LUCKYDAWG13
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RedDot just to punch paper
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W296/h110.
Maj Dad
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I like AA5 as a Unique alternative, but like Gamestalker said, for magnum loads H110/W296 are the cat's meows. I use WC-820, a GI canister grade of 296 that I got from Jeff Bartlett or Pat's Reloading a few years back, but my most used load in the 44 mag is 9 or 10 gr (~1100-1200 fps) of Unique under an RCBS 250 gr Keith-style SWC. The 10 gr is a hot load, but not really "magnum" and has killed more than one deer. AA5 is very similar but is spherical versus flake (meters really well), and when I run across some, I will pick up another pound or two.
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The commercial powders in the "real magnum" burn rate range are W296/H110, Accurate #9, Accurate 4100, Alliant Power Pro 300-MP, Ramshot Enforcer and IMR4227 or H4227.
Faster powders like Longshot, A#7, Unique, Universal, AA#5, HS-6 and the like will of course work but not deliver the results 2400 does.
Faster powders like Longshot, A#7, Unique, Universal, AA#5, HS-6 and the like will of course work but not deliver the results 2400 does.
ljnowell
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Most charts I see list AA5 as being slower than 231. From those listed it would be my choice, however I admit to being partial to Accurate Arms handgun powder
Elkins45
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I saw both IMR4227 and H110 at the gunshow today, but not a single new can of Alliant powder. Both of them would be good substitutes for 2400.
Onward Allusion
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+1 on 4227
Schwing
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I got desperate and started using blue dot for .44 magnum loads. Now, it is the only powder I use for .44.
For .357, I don't typically load full magnum loads but I have had good luck with 300mp on those that I did. The only caveat is that it is extremely cold sensitive in my experience.
For .357, I don't typically load full magnum loads but I have had good luck with 300mp on those that I did. The only caveat is that it is extremely cold sensitive in my experience.
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Unique works well for me in both calibers. Of course, it's scarce, too.
IKE
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No pistol powders have been available locally for quite awhile and rifle powder is getting pretty slim......for a long time we had powder but no primers and now it's the other way around.
I'm not yet close to being in a bind for my old standby powders for .38, .357, 44 Spl. and 44 Mag. and I don't want to get that way.
Yesterday I went in a small store and he had a couple pounds of IMR4227 on the shelf and although I've never used it I bought them both to put back for hard times.......with things as they are now with reloading supplies a person just has to find suitable substitutes for his old favorites.
I'm not yet close to being in a bind for my old standby powders for .38, .357, 44 Spl. and 44 Mag. and I don't want to get that way.
Yesterday I went in a small store and he had a couple pounds of IMR4227 on the shelf and although I've never used it I bought them both to put back for hard times.......with things as they are now with reloading supplies a person just has to find suitable substitutes for his old favorites.
amlevin
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Flame from the barrel and a hand that feels like you've been catching fastballs with out a mitt.
That's what shooting magnum handguns is all about. If you can still read the headstamp after two loadings you aren't hot enough
Well, maybe that last is a little much but Flame and Pain are definitely what Magnums are all about
UziLand
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I have had good success with the 4227 in both 38spcl and 357mag. I don't load to super hot most of the time. But that is a nice clean burning powder.
Onward Allusion
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Just thought I'd share. BassPro.com has IMR 4227 and TiteWad in stock. Free shipping on $75 or more in purchases. If you have the powder ship to a store, zero shipping charges AND no hazmat fee!
Yes, I know TiteWad is shotgun powder, but it can be used for 9mm & 45 ACP (load data from Hodgdon). There's data out there for other pistol calibers out there as well, although not official.
Yes, I know TiteWad is shotgun powder, but it can be used for 9mm & 45 ACP (load data from Hodgdon). There's data out there for other pistol calibers out there as well, although not official.
blarby
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Another vote for the 231.
While you won't get full tilt, you'll get great loads for little powder.
Good to see ya around , Cat !
While you won't get full tilt, you'll get great loads for little powder.
Good to see ya around , Cat !
Hondo 60
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More 2400 if you can find it.
Or maybe some Lil Gun, (again if you can find it.)
Someone mentioned AA5 - I've found you need to load near max, or you get a bunch of 1/2 burned or unburned powder.
Not one of my favs.
Or maybe some Lil Gun, (again if you can find it.)
Someone mentioned AA5 - I've found you need to load near max, or you get a bunch of 1/2 burned or unburned powder.
Not one of my favs.
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