2f powder in .32 cal rifle?

[big-ugly]

Hello again everyone. If you have seen my other posts, then you know that I recently have purchased a .32 cal CVA rifle. The only powder I have on hand is pyrodex rs (2f). I was wondering if it would be safe to use 10-15 grains of this powder in this small bore rifle when it shows up? I realize that it would be better to use pyrodex p (3f), but I cannot get any local. I looked in all my usual places today and nobody has the 3f substitute. Ordering several pounds of real black 3f is out of the question, I spent the money on the rifle and am already in enough trouble with the missus. Maybe I should just wait until I can find pyrodex p? If it would be safe to fire the 2f substitute in the small bore I would be very happy to be able to shoot the new gun. If safety is of any concern at all, then I will just wait and get the proper powder.

 

[792mauser]

It should be fine with a small charge. I've done it with my .32 caliber traditions Crockett when I ran out of Pyro p.
It didn't group like before but was ok at 25 yards.

 

[rodwha]

No issue with safety. 2F builds pressure slower than 3F.

However it will leave more fouling, and in small bores, especially .32s, it seems significant to where you may want to swab after each shot. But then there are a couple (still using 3F though) that claim not to have issues. Most likely they are using a good lube and plenty of it.

I don't have a small bore anything so can't say one way or another myself. I do read a fair amount though and am making an assumption with the lube.

 

[big-ugly]

Thank you both kindly for the advice. I don't intend on using the RS all the time, just the first time shooting the rifle. Have to make sure it works and all that

 

[rodwha]

Gotta spend a few rounds just to see, right?

 

[Malachi Leviticus Blue]

If you want to find out first hand how much difference the size makes you could always just crush down some 3F a bit mortar and pestle style. I'd keep the quantity to work with at a time small.

 

[4v50 Gary]

It should work.

 

[big-ugly]

If you want to find out first hand how much difference the size makes you could always just crush down some 3F a bit mortar and pestle style. I'd keep the quantity to work with at a time small.

I think I'll leave grinding down powder to people crazier than me. Would love to find real black, but it's near impossible here and ordering a large quantity online is not an option right now.

 

[rodwha]

Some people use 4F in those small calibers.

 

[Patocazador]

Buy some genuine 3F black powder. That's what the gun was designed for not phony substitutes. Ignition will improve also.

 

[big-ugly]

Getting real black here is next to impossible, as I stated in a previous post... That is the reason for the use of substitutes. I have no qualms with the substitutes either, they have always worked well for me. My inline and my Great Plains Rifle both work 100% on pyrodex, so I have no worries about pyrodex working in the small caliber either. I didn't ask if you think I should get genuine black powder or use substitutes. I simply asked if the 2f granulation size would be safe to fire in the small bore muzzle loader.
Like your signature line suggests, "life is short, have some fun." Life is too short to be worried about whether I'm shooting "genuine" black powder. I am going to take "the high road" so to speak, and just be happy that I am shooting a great rifle with whatever propellant I can get locally and not worry myself about the black powder snobs on the internet.
Have a great day.

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

Other than the size of the grains there is no difference in 2f and 3f BP. 2f will work fine it just burns a bit slower.
I use pyrodex nearly always in my round ball guns and I'm not ashamed of it.

 

[D. Buck Stopshere]

2FG works, but I would recommend at the very least to obtain Pyrodex 3FG, "P" Grade. Most online black powder distributors like my source, Powder, Inc, in Clarksville AR, will sell a minimum 5 lb case. Find a friend or two (or five) and split the cost of the case two or more ways. You can also purchase a 10 lb case and save little on the per pound cost. Jerry at Powder, Inc., sells GOEX, Schuetzen (Less $$$ than GOEX), and Swiss. In my .32 caliber T/C Renegade, I use 25 grains of Swiss 3FG black powder.