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30-06 sight???

Discussion in 'Long Gun Accessories and Optics' started by theboyscout, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. theboyscout

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    I am looking for a type of sight system to put on my 3006 rifle. I plan to hunt with it and set it at about 150 yards or less. You don't get really far shots in Florida. I want durable, reliable, and can handle the recoil. If they make them. I don't want a zoom. I want to sight it and shoot like iron sights would with a regular sight picture. Also, it does not need to come from any of the pictures just posted them for an idea of what I was looking at but share what you think might work.

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  2. If1HitU

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    Sorry I don't hunt, but I just had a 30.06 Cabelas Riflescope 3-12x40 mounted on my BLR Monte Carlo 81 lever action.:thumbup:
     
  3. burrhead

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    Since it appears you want a RDS, I would advise you find an LED as opposed to a hologram and with a dot no more than 1 MOA. Most have 2 to 4 MOA dots and, for me, will cover too much of the target. LED will give you a more focused dot that a hologram which are pixilated. Personally I get a quality 3-9X40 conventional scope and call it a day.
     
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  4. DocRock

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    Agree with burrhead. No reason not to get a decent scope: 3-9, or 2-7. It's not as if 30-06 is a big scope buster.
     
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  5. GooseGestapo

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    What type Rifle?
    My bolt-action.30/06’s wear 3-9x Leupolds. Except for the 1943 03A3 Springfield, it wears the original reciever sight, as do the M1 Garands.
     
  6. JeeperCreeper

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    I would try to get the smallest MOA size for dot possible. I know the Holosun 510c is beefy... Alabama Arsenal on YouTube has a hood torture test.

    But honestly, I'd go traditional optic... Maybe even a 1-4 or 1-6. Kinda the best of both worlds. They make the reticles for 308 so -06 range will be similar as well.
     
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  7. IdaD

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    I'd go with a scope too, with 1x or 2x on the bottom end of the magnification if you're only shooting out to 150 yards. A 2-7 would give you quick target acquisition at shorter ranges but some flexibility to bump up the magnification for longer shots if you want. I like Leupold a lot.
     
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  8. readyeddy

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    Sounds like European pig hunters that drive the animals and make running shots. The RDS apparently gives them the ability to make fast shots.

    I've heard good things about Primary Arms, Vortex and Sig.
     
  9. eastbank

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    i have 2x7-2.5x8 leupolds on several rifles including 3006 that have been the best hunting scopes for me. I shot two prong horns with my 7mm08, one at 280 yards and one at 310 yards with a 2.5x8 leupold. those two scope would the last ones to go.
     
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  10. rdnktrkr

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    I have multiple 30-06s and all except milsurps wear a scope, the red dots I have are on ARs. I feel the red dots are good for quick shots and with a scope you will be more accurate because of the dot being bigger than the cross hairs
     
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  11. Slamfire

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    I have not tried using a red dot type sight on a rifle, I have them on my Bullseye Pistols, but I am only shooting out to 50 yards. At least at 50 yards, with a handgun, I cannot hold hard enough to evaluate parallax sighting errors. I will say, I absolutely center the dot in the field of view before firing. I center the post in my irons, and I center the reticle in the scope. I found that off axis sight alignment creates off axis shot placement.

    You should be close enough to go to CMP Talladega and ask the Range Officer's what they think about red dots on rifles. One of the Range Masters at Talladega told me of an red dot type manufacturer that brought out sights with long guns and could not group worth a hoot at distance with the things. It probably has to do with centering the dot in the field of view. I think for the Mall Ninja's and "Tactical" types, these sights are just great for shooting at 25 yards or less, quick sight acquisition and of course, these guys love to rock and roll. At the range you will hear them burning off 20 round magazines in seconds.
     
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    A friend wants to go to CMP Talladega, I suggested spending the night instead of driving back so we wouldn't have to leave early, giving us time to do the rifle range in the morning after visiting the store in Oxford and pistol range in the afternoon.
     
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  15. Jack Ryan

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    You need to borrow one of those or try somebody elses before you buy it. I resisted and resisted til I succumbed to the propaganda. Spent HUNDREDS of dollars on a Luepold like those and I hate that frigging thing. Completely useless for hunting far as I am concerned. With in a month it was laying in the box it came in at the bottom of my tool box.
     
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  16. Peakbagger46

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    I agree. I have used red dots on ARs for work for a long time and recently a reflex sight on my duty pistol. They serve a purpose for defensive arms but I would not want to hunt with them.

    That 2.5X20 Leupold looks intriguing given your demand of a fixed power scope.

    If you can get passed the fixed power only idea, a 1-4X20 is just as fast as a red dot and super easy to use both eyes open on 1X.

    Even at close range, having a little magnification really helps to find branches in the way of the kill zone. Just a thought...
     
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    Interesting. I’ve been told for years (using Eotec, Aimpoint, and now Trijicon) that the dot position in the window has zero effect on shot placement as there is no parallax with these systems. Is this incorrect?
     
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    In my experience, its dependent on the sight. Ive only used a few of the higher end dots, but ALL of the cheaper ones ive used have parallax issues when getting much out side of the center, and even the good ones dont do great once you hit the edges. lense curvature etc. i assume.
    Its not critical at short ranges they are usually employed, but its noticeable when shooting at 100+yds. One of the reasons I like using a flip up rear sight with my dots on ARs is because it sharpens the dot, but also give me another form of reference to center the dot.
     
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    The Bullseye Pistol shooters I asked told there is parallax and to center the dot in the field of view. I have not tried shooting a red dot style rifle sight, but I would center the dot in the field of view unless I proved, at distance, that there is no shift to point of impact.
     
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  20. brasscollector

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    Find yourself a 1-4x scope with an illuminated reticle, best of both worlds.
     
  21. eastbank

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    be known that 1x4-20 scopes are not to good at pre dawn- late dust, I have not been able to shoot several good bucks under those conditions in dark woods. I have a 3x9-40 mounted on my ruger #3 for that use, not for the power but the light gathering at 3x with the 40mm bell.
     

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  23. Peakbagger46

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    While increasing magnification can help target identification in low light, a 1-4X20 scope still allows an outstanding 5.0mm exit pupil in low light. By contrast, 10X42 binoculars have an exit pupil of 4.2mm.

    Eastbank, are you sure you have been using your 3-9X40 at low power at dusk? I have found myself dialing up at last light to make a harvest.
     
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  24. eastbank

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    yes i,m sure, if I could get a straight 3x or 4x with a 40 mm bell I would use it. I don,t need more power, more light.
     
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