30-30 plated bullets and tube magazine.

[AJC1]

So in tube magazines I always apply the full rol crimp. So I read that's a no no on plated bullets. So is a tighter interference fit aka neck tension the solution. Is it a ballance between no movement and swaging. Never loaded a plated bullet so I figured I'd pick the most complex scenario first.

 

[Hugger-4641]

Where did you find plated bullets rated for the speeds of 30-30?

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

I crimp plated bullets. Never had an issue. Run the at cast data.
308 150 Grain | Bullets for Reloading | Bulk Bullets (berrysmfg.com)

 

[Hugger-4641]

I crimp plated bullets. Never had an issue. Run the at cast data.
308 150 Grain | Bullets for Reloading | Bulk Bullets (berrysmfg.com)

Awesome, never saw these before!

 

[AJC1]

I crimp plated bullets. Never had an issue. Run the at cast data.
308 150 Grain | Bullets for Reloading | Bulk Bullets (berrysmfg.com)

Those are what I was looking at. The only have 150, I was hoping for 170 also but beggars and all.

 

[AJC1]

I crimp plated bullets. Never had an issue. Run the at cast data.
308 150 Grain | Bullets for Reloading | Bulk Bullets (berrysmfg.com)

Taper, factory crimp or roll?

 

[AJC1]

Where did you find plated bullets rated for the speeds of 30-30?

https://www.xtremebullets.com/30-30-150-FP-p/xc308-150fp-b0500.htm

https://www.evergladesammo.com/bullets/rifle-bullets/308-150gr-plated-fmj-bullets.html

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

I think it taper crimps. I use lyman dies on them. I don't crimp them to death. Just enough to hold the bullets snug and the rounds chamber easy. I run these too.
https://tbbullets.com/30-165gr-rnfp-polymer-coated/

 

[Hugger-4641]

https://www.xtremebullets.com/30-30-150-FP-p/xc308-150fp-b0500.htm

Cool. Look like good target rounds, but too slow for me! I don’t think I've got anything loaded below 2000fps in mine.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

I have run em up 2200 fps. According to the chronograph. The Berry's ones.

 

[AJC1]

I think it taper crimps. I use lyman dies on them. I don't crimp them to death. Just enough to hold the bullets snug and the rounds chamber easy. I run these too.
https://tbbullets.com/30-165gr-rnfp-polymer-coated/

Those are cast boolits. I make em...

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

I'm surprised you're not plating your own by now. Slacker!

A light roll crimp "shouldn't" hurt thick plated. But, just to be safe, check the barrel for leading and copper fouling after each round until you've got the hang of it. It's possible they won't need more than a taper crimp and good neck tension.

 

[FROGO207]

To solve the problem when I purchased a bunch I got a Lee FCD. It will put a canalure/crimp that will not damage the plating. I checked. Also don't have to trim each time for good crimps anymore.

 

[WeekendReloader]

I use the collet crimp die from my LEE set. It seems to work well.

 

[AJC1]

I use the collet crimp die from my LEE set. It seems to work well.

Do you set it by feel, sight or measurement???

 

[WeekendReloader]

Do you set it by feel, sight or measurement???

I set it by sight-ish. Not really scientific.
You can probably do a better job by measuring with calipers or something. I read the instructions that came with the die set and basically followed them. This was a few years ago, so here it is from memory...
You can look down into the die from the top and see the collet close around the neck. There is visible space between the collet leaves. I then dialed in the die a bit and visually inspected the crimp around the case mouth. I did this a few times until I saw a nice visible crimp groove all the way around the neck. After adjusting, there is still a little bit of space between the collet leaves in the die.
This is totally unscientific, but pressing on the bullet causes no set back. I haven't had any problems with them in the tube magazine.
I did crimp one all the way to check how it worked and it visually looked a little over crimped.

I use Berry's 150 grain plated with Unique or Trail Boss. I recently purchased a LEE mold that has a canalure built in, so I will switch to a roll crimp on those.

 

[EricBu]

So in tube magazines I always apply the full rol crimp. So I read that's a no no on plated bullets. So is a tighter interference fit aka neck tension the solution. Is it a ballance between no movement and swaging. Never loaded a plated bullet so I figured I'd pick the most complex scenario first.

I use a Lee FCD on those, which is a collet type crimp. I run the same on coated, plated, and jacketed. Plus, with any tube mag, neck tension is king. I try and avoid shot out brass, and I religiously anneal my lever brass.

 

[AJC1]

I set it by sight-ish. Not really scientific.
You can probably do a better job by measuring with calipers or something. I read the instructions that came with the die set and basically followed them. This was a few years ago, so here it is from memory...
You can look down into the die from the top and see the collet close around the neck. There is visible space between the collet leaves. I then dialed in the die a bit and visually inspected the crimp around the case mouth. I did this a few times until I saw a nice visible crimp groove all the way around the neck. After adjusting, there is still a little bit of space between the collet leaves in the die.
This is totally unscientific, but pressing on the bullet causes no set back. I haven't had any problems with them in the tube magazine.
I did crimp one all the way to check how it worked and it visually looked a little over crimped.

I use Berry's 150 grain plated with Unique or Trail Boss. I recently purchased a LEE mold that has a canalure built in, so I will switch to a roll crimp on those.

I would be very happy to hear about your casting adventures, and anything you learn. I may get the lee 170 rf soon.....

 

[WeekendReloader]

I would be very happy to hear about your casting adventures, and anything you learn. I may get the lee 170 rf soon.....

I got the LEE 150 version. Haven't had the chance to use it yet.

 

[Bfh_auto]

Those are what I was looking at. The only have 150, I was hoping for 170 also but beggars and all.

I too use those. 29.5 IMR 3031 and a light roll crimp. It shoots well in my wife's Marlin. My friend's Marlin, and my nephew's Model 64. My brother's 94 has pitting and it doesn't like them.
They kill deer well also.

 

[joneb]

Taper, factory crimp or roll?

I use this for plated bullets, https://leeprecision.com/factory-crimp-die-30-30.html