.300BLK - Poised to win or doomed to fail?
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armoredman
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Not to digress too much, then this product is almost strictly intended for the AR market? I am one who swims upstream, and haven't been a real fan of that rifle since I a shot an M16A1 in 1984. But all new products start out with a niche, and then branch out. Perhaps we'll see a CZ 805 Semi auto civilian model in 300 Blackout some year. Hey, a guy can dream!
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/12/07/bill-wilson-goes-hunting-with-the-300-aac-blk/
Also - go back and look at that gel test from page-1 - from a 9 inch barrel at 100 yards, it had 19.7 inches of penetration, 0.581 expansion, and 98.3% retained wait. That is the opposite of not good for hunting.
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It can make major power factor for 3-gun:
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com...actical-optics-divison-at-multigun-nationals/
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com...actical-optics-divison-at-multigun-nationals/
armoredman
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Outstanding, that's what I was looking for, thank you.
Ahem. Well, I think Mister Silvers just made a lot of keltec fans very happy.
You'll have to forgive me for doing a little dance myself.
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C-grunt
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Remember though that the velocities on page 1 are from a 9 inch barrel. A 16 inch barrel will speed those up a bit.
Rsilvers.... what kind of velocity are you getting out of a 16 inch barrel?
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Has anyone worked out just how cheaply you can reload these things at? .10 cents for brass is really enticing. But it's meaningless if the bullet (.308 bullets are always above .15 cents a round) and powder push reloading 7.62x35 to prices equal that of the .308 Winchester.
Reloading .308 is what has kept me away from .300 BLK so far. I can reload 7.62x51 down to .36 cents a cartridge if I do it right.
Reloading .308 is what has kept me away from .300 BLK so far. I can reload 7.62x51 down to .36 cents a cartridge if I do it right.
http://www.goldenwestbrass.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=13v
14.5 cents a bullet
10 cents a case
5 cents powder
So 30 cents a round, if you use the brass only once.
If you use the brass 5 times, then 22 cents a round.
kwelz
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That is hard to argue with. Honestly I have been considering getting into reloading and once my .300 is up and running it will probably put me over the edge.
armoredman
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Gotta interject - reloading ROCKS! 
That's what a cartridge like this is to me, wide open territory, time to play. Maybe if the Good Lord smiles on me, I can try. What is that AAC Model 7 rifle? Looks like an excellent camp carbine - detachable or fixed mag? Make it like the CZ 527M with a 5 or ten round detachable, and that's a heck o' winner! Even better, convince CZ-UB to make the 527M in that caliber standard.
That's what a cartridge like this is to me, wide open territory, time to play. Maybe if the Good Lord smiles on me, I can try. What is that AAC Model 7 rifle? Looks like an excellent camp carbine - detachable or fixed mag? Make it like the CZ 527M with a 5 or ten round detachable, and that's a heck o' winner! Even better, convince CZ-UB to make the 527M in that caliber standard.Strykervet
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Well, I got my barrel on order with Satern, it'll be sweet --when I get it! I ordered it a few months ago and I don't expect it anytime soon (or later for that matter). I ordered a custom deep fluted 16" carbine barrel, should weigh in at just over one lb. I got the AAC mount and I'll have the SDN6 suppressor for it soon enough (and that puppy will fit three other rifles as well, and maybe a future rifle too!).
I'm no operator, but I had a pretty cool job in the army that left me fascinated with accurized battle rifles, or SDM rifles, as well as custom M4's, AR's, and oddball calibre conversions for them. I have the 6.5Grendel, my absolute favorite rifle and round at the moment (and hard to see it being replaced by anything that works in an AR) great for accurate long range shooting, a .50Beowulf, a 200m sledgehammer that one, 5.56 obviously, and .300BLK soon, it'll be fun shooting with no ear pro when I have the range to myself which happens more than it should (but I won't complain when I have that with me!).
There is the Whisper, but I understand the BLK does it a little better and handles supersonic and subsonic loads alike better. But I also hear it can be finicky if not make right, so buyer beware. I should have gone with AAC on this one, but I was so impressed with Satern's work that I don't mind sticking with him for most of my barrel needs.
Problem is, you need to order a year in advance at least.
I'm no operator, but I had a pretty cool job in the army that left me fascinated with accurized battle rifles, or SDM rifles, as well as custom M4's, AR's, and oddball calibre conversions for them. I have the 6.5Grendel, my absolute favorite rifle and round at the moment (and hard to see it being replaced by anything that works in an AR) great for accurate long range shooting, a .50Beowulf, a 200m sledgehammer that one, 5.56 obviously, and .300BLK soon, it'll be fun shooting with no ear pro when I have the range to myself which happens more than it should (but I won't complain when I have that with me!).
There is the Whisper, but I understand the BLK does it a little better and handles supersonic and subsonic loads alike better. But I also hear it can be finicky if not make right, so buyer beware. I should have gone with AAC on this one, but I was so impressed with Satern's work that I don't mind sticking with him for most of my barrel needs.
Problem is, you need to order a year in advance at least.
I tested some Satern barrels for accuracy compared to White Oak made from Kreiger and Shilen. They were all identical on paper. Satern was fast for me at first, but then it was painful. They said that they have more machines and more people now. AAC barrels are not better and no worse than the Satern I had for accuracy - but AAC is nitrided, has the R&D for getting gas ports and thread specs right, and our barrel extensions are great - and we put a lot of thought into our drawings and profiles.
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