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I am recovering from oral surgery, and cannot do anything that is exercise for 4 more days, but I can run my lathe, pull a trigger, and post on this forum.
I went to the range and recorded this data three weeks ago
Colt New Police 32 S&W Long mfg 1907, 1.3X Bushnell Phantom Magnum scope
27 ounces + ammo as tested
At 50 feet 4.2" 6 shot group [ 2.2" for the last 5 shots]
85 gr Hornady .312" JHP, 1.3" OAL, upside down 308 Lee rifle factory crimp, 14 gr LIL'GUN
14 gr.: 1285, 1341, 1413, 1275 fps
13 gr.: 1246, 1317, 1228 fps
12 gr.: 1322, 1243, 1149 fps
14 gr Quickload predicts 7.3" barrel 1700 fps 29kpsi
13 gr Quickload predicts 7.3" barrel 1540 fps 23kpsi
14 gr Quickload predicts 7.3" barrel 1388 fps 18kpsi
Obviously a flaming muzzle fireball error
Here is a boring 2 or 3 minute video I made a month ago on how I crimp the ammo upside down in a 308 crimp die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE2aVfWJIKc
I fixed another Colt 32 S&W Long last night by using a boring bar [made from a twist drill] to cut the 11 degree forcing cone in the blob of TIG weld added to the breech.
It has a 4" barrel, and I test fired it today. It only weighs 18.5 ounces and it kicks with the 14 gr load.
There seems to be a pattern:
I just make up loads using all kinds of bullets and powder on 100 year old 32 S&W Longs until I blow out the forcing cone.
Then I get the cone welded up and fixed.
Then I shoot a load that kicks hard, but would not blow out the cone.
I think the loads with LONGSHOT split cylinders, Unique blew out forcing cones and made cases stick, but LIL'GUN and 800X seem to just make lots of recoil.
The cone is also much stronger, being thicker and made from drill rod.
What does it all mean?
Those revolvers kick hard with that LIL'GUN load and severe crimp.
I am recovering from oral surgery, and cannot do anything that is exercise for 4 more days, but I can run my lathe, pull a trigger, and post on this forum.
I went to the range and recorded this data three weeks ago
Colt New Police 32 S&W Long mfg 1907, 1.3X Bushnell Phantom Magnum scope
27 ounces + ammo as tested
At 50 feet 4.2" 6 shot group [ 2.2" for the last 5 shots]
85 gr Hornady .312" JHP, 1.3" OAL, upside down 308 Lee rifle factory crimp, 14 gr LIL'GUN
14 gr.: 1285, 1341, 1413, 1275 fps
13 gr.: 1246, 1317, 1228 fps
12 gr.: 1322, 1243, 1149 fps
14 gr Quickload predicts 7.3" barrel 1700 fps 29kpsi
13 gr Quickload predicts 7.3" barrel 1540 fps 23kpsi
14 gr Quickload predicts 7.3" barrel 1388 fps 18kpsi
Obviously a flaming muzzle fireball error
Here is a boring 2 or 3 minute video I made a month ago on how I crimp the ammo upside down in a 308 crimp die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE2aVfWJIKc
I fixed another Colt 32 S&W Long last night by using a boring bar [made from a twist drill] to cut the 11 degree forcing cone in the blob of TIG weld added to the breech.
It has a 4" barrel, and I test fired it today. It only weighs 18.5 ounces and it kicks with the 14 gr load.
There seems to be a pattern:
I just make up loads using all kinds of bullets and powder on 100 year old 32 S&W Longs until I blow out the forcing cone.
Then I get the cone welded up and fixed.
Then I shoot a load that kicks hard, but would not blow out the cone.
I think the loads with LONGSHOT split cylinders, Unique blew out forcing cones and made cases stick, but LIL'GUN and 800X seem to just make lots of recoil.
The cone is also much stronger, being thicker and made from drill rod.
What does it all mean?
Those revolvers kick hard with that LIL'GUN load and severe crimp.
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