.357 levergun ballistics?

[gbran]

Can't seem to find ballistics for .357's out of leverguns. Anybody have data? Chrono? Links, etc.?

 

[Kachok]

Do you handload?

 

[shiftyer1]

I've seen several examples on this forum, have you tried a search? .357 leverguns have been a pretty popular topic for the last little while with alot of good info.

 

[gbran]

I do have handload equip, but haven't loaded musch in several years. I did try a search. I seem to remember seeing this discussed on THR, but couldn't find it.

 

[Kachok]

180gr Partition over 13.5gr of H110 supposed to push just shy of 1400fps, this is an internet load, so you should porbably start at 11gr and work up. I am extra cautious with non published loads. If you want a faster load in the 158gr class try Hodgdon Lil'Gun supposed to push up to 2,000fps with 18gr, again work up with caution.

 

[gbran]

THX, that's a start.

 

[Salmoneye]

http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/

Click 'Rifle', select caliber and bullet weight...

 

[CraigC]

Expect velocities to be 400-500fps higher than revolver numbers. Some loads will gain as much as 700fps.

 

[squarles67]

Using Factory American Eagle 158 JSP

S&W 66-2 with a 6" bbl 1278 fps
S&W 27-2 with a 8 3/8" bbl 1379 fps
Marlin 1894 Cowboy with 20" bbl 1820 fps

Other testing with the Marlin (as always use caution some of these are MAX loads)

Bullet	Bullet	Bullet	Powder	Powder	Powder				
MFG	weight	type	MFG	type	charge	OAL	FPS	ES	SD
Cast Perf	180	WFNGC	Alliant 	2400	13	1.566	1585	37.89	16.24
Cast Perf	180	WFNGC	Alliant 	2400	13.5	1.566	1697	60.44	24.55
Rem	158	JHP	Alliant 	2400	13.5	1.582	1627	73.92	24.28
Rem	158	JHP	Alliant 	2400	14.2	1.582	1695	101.6	36.93
Rem	158	JHP	Alliant 	2400	14.9	1.582	1739	72.55	27
Cast Perf	180	WFNGC	Ramshot	Enforcer	12.3	1.566	1505	48.11	18.38
Cast Perf	180	WFNGC	Ramshot	Enforcer	13.1	1.566	1572	42.57	14.52
Rem	158	JHP	Ramshot	Enforcer	13.1	1.582	1587	77.58	30.34
Rem	158	JHP	Ramshot	Enforcer	14.2	1.582	1667	79.81	30.69
Cast Perf	180	WFNGC	Hogdgon	Lil Gun	13.7	1.566	1662	77.07	27.73
Cast Perf	180	WFNGC	Hogdgon	Lil Gun	14.5	1.566	1719	47.24	19.84
Cast Perf	180	WFNGC	Hogdgon	Lil Gun	15	1.566	1760	78.34	29.25
Rem	158	JHP	Hogdgon	Lil Gun	16.7	1.582	1838	32.62	14.56
Rem	158	JHP	Hogdgon	Lil Gun	18.2	1.582	1916	92.64	30.54

The only ones to exceed the factory Am Eagle velocity were loaded with Lil Gun

I have more loaded with Win 296 and AA#9 that I haven't had a chance to test in the rifle yet

 

[DANNY-L]

I just went out and checked my marlin loaded with 180gr xtp,13.5gr H110,fed sp mag.primers
chrony set up at 12' only fired once and got 1425fps

 

[firesky101]

check out buffalo bore's website. They test their stuff in real guns, and the numbers they get out of a .357 levergun are insane.

 

[Carne Frio]

This should be helpful:
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html

 

[Furncliff]

What works for me...

Hornaday 158 XTP over 18gr Lil-gun = 1858fps 3/4 inch groups at 50y.


As per...http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_12_50/ai_n6275756/?tag=content;col1

 

[brianr23]

My Experience with Buffalo Bore

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=337994

 

[gunnutery]

You could check out ballisticsbytheinch.com , it's a start anyway.

 

[Owen Sparks]

Remember this, no matter how fast you start a pistol bullet it will lose velocity rapidly because short blunt pistol bullets have poor ballistic coefficients and are subject to tremendous wind resistance. The best option now is to load the Hornady LeverLution bullets as they are somewhat pointed yet still deform on game.

 

[RPRNY]

I believe Paco Kelley has done a piece on 357 leverguns as well as 45 colt and 454. Check out Gunblast.com Also, rule of thumb, expect 300 - 400 fps more from 18" barrel vs revolver data.

 

[DPris]

Craig has it.
I chronographed several loads from a 4-inch Ruger .357 & a 20-inch Marlin several years ago & that's exactly what I found.
Denis

 

[CraigC]

Remember this, no matter how fast you start a pistol bullet it will lose velocity rapidly because short blunt pistol bullets have poor ballistic coefficients and are subject to tremendous wind resistance. The best option now is to load the Hornady LeverLution bullets as they are somewhat pointed yet still deform on game.

It matters not, it is a 100-125yd affair no matter how you slice it. In .357, probably best kept to 100yds or less. My leverguns will probably never see one of them funky rubber tipped contraptions.

 

[Zeke/PA]

Long ago , a Winchester '92 action ONLY landed in my lap and after some work on my part including rebarreling,chambering and other action alterations,making the buttstock and forearm, I had a cute little thing to carry in my Jeep (1954 Willy's CJ3) .
I liked it for a great while as did my Compadres.
I shot ONLY reloads, cast bullets, and NEVER exceded the recomended loads for PISTOL ammo.
Lot's of fun for awhile but I dumped it some time ago.
BUT: I wish I had it back.

 

[wild willy]

The Hornady 140 gr. FTX doesn't have as good of B.C. as the 140 XTP Hornady .I don't know what the advatage is supposed to be.

 

[R.W.Dale]

Remember this, no matter how fast you start a pistol bullet it will lose velocity rapidly because short blunt pistol bullets have poor ballistic coefficients and are subject to tremendous wind resistance. The best option now is to load the Hornady LeverLution bullets as they are somewhat pointed yet still deform on game.

Pure snake oil marketing

The. 357 mag leverevolution bullet is actually less aerodynamic the 140g xtp hollow point that's been around for years.

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