Now we're talkin'...I was also toying with the idea of a mini-30 for home defense, perhaps loaded up with Hornady V-MAX 7.62x39. I wonder how that stacks up to .223 and .357 in terms of stopping power.
Now we're talkin'...I was also toying with the idea of a mini-30 for home defense, perhaps loaded up with Hornady V-MAX 7.62x39. I wonder how that stacks up to .223 and .357 in terms of stopping power.
Any of the 3 your looking at will do the job equality as well. You need to decide the rifle your AND anyone else that might be at home are the most comfortable with and then the one you can get the ammo for the easiest. You can shoot 38sp in the 357 lever gun. Its also the thinnest and the best balanced and the lightest of the 3 at least the marlin 94 is .
357 carbine info-http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/05/chris-dumm/lever-action-ballistics-30-30-vs-357-magnum/
In what part of the US are all these people being shot by your department so I can avoid itAR for sure. My department uses 55 grn Federal Tactical (hollow point) and it's been dropping bad guys like lightning.
Daisy Cutter: Was it a case of just crazy pitbull or was rabies suspected? When I worked remote bush villages the rabies problem required a lot of bleach after a dog zapping. I was wondering who was stuck cleaning up the mess in your photos.
hypersonic pressure shock of the 3000 fps+ 5.56
Angry dogs are some tough SOBs. A couple guys on my squad were attacked by a 90lb pittbull a year or so ago on a dog attack call. They both shot it. One round went straight into its mouth and came out the back of its neck. The other went through the chest broadside. The mouth shot was a 45 230 grn HST and the broadside was a 40 180 grn HST. After being shot twice that dog sat down and walked back into its yard. Animal control came out and caught the thing where it was later put down at the pound.The pitbull and GSD were intact male ghetto dogs. They fought, up and down the street. Alpha males fight, it's not abnormal. Most fights are resolved with the loser being able to slink off. It IS abnormal in the animal world to KILL over territory, food or a mate... It's supposed to be an exhibition fight. Given the scene, we weren't letting the pitbull go back "at large". Pitbulls behavior was abnormal and clearly violent. We called animal control and waited. The pitbull was exhausted after the fight. We waited, he panted. He tried to trot off before the dog catcher got on scene. Partner walked up and executed a shot to the center mass of the pit. No exit wound. Definitely a mortal hit, but NOT a *bang-flop*.
From a liability perspective, had we let that dog trot off and it eats someone... The department gets sued. Anyone looking at that street woulda said we shoulda known better than to allow the dog to leave.
I don't know whether it had rabies. Nobody was bitten. There was no motivation to test the dog after he was dispatched.
Fire Dept came and hosed off the whole street. Not exactly perfect, but acceptable given the area.
I'm a dog lover, I love most dogs more than most humans, but when it comes to life & death I'll chose the human first every time.
The point made about noise is a valid point for anything inside a home.
In equivalent platforms, I would take a wide slower bullet over anything .223 any day of the week. There is a reason .357 is legal to hunt deer...a human-sized game...in many states, and .223 rarely is.
Full-power .357 out of a 16"-18" barrel is probably about the same loudness as a .223 out of the same length barrel, as long as you are not using a brake on either carbine.The point made about noise is a valid point for anything inside a home.