Pretty good. I like No.9 (no Beatles jokes, please) It's up there with 2400 in my "Magnum pistol powders" stash. I have yet to try Enforcer. Bought some intending to try it with some Speer 135gr. GDHP's. Work, community, family... geez! when does it all end?View attachment 1033105 Tried accurate #9 today and it's a fun to shoot powder. Ran federal spm and still ended up with some cases with unburnt powder. I ran 12.3 to 13.7 grains. The top charge was my best group but reverification on another day is probably warranted because I jerked a few and was not spot on. I may run a cci vs federal test next just to keep things interesting. As always at 10 yards circles are 5.5 inches.
Do you ever get enough pressure to get a complete burn every time maybe with jacketed?Pretty good. I like No.9 (no Beatles jokes, please) It's up there with 2400 in my "Magnum pistol powders" stash. I have yet to try Enforcer. Bought some intending to try it with some Speer 135gr. GDHP's. Work, community, family... geez! when does it all end?
Oh, wait... never mind. I know the answer to that.
With No.9, no. I am shooting 158gr GDHP's mostly - except now I'm out and they're not available! - and always have at least some unburned residue. Never enough to worry about, though. I'm shooting these in a 6-1/2" Blackhawk almost exclusively. I don't have my load data available at work but, it's not a stout load, IIRC. I got it off the Speer site, I think. The 4" .357's don't seem to like No.9 as well.Do you ever get enough pressure to get a complete burn every time maybe with jacketed?
The dam 4" struggle is real.With No.9, no. I am shooting 158gr GDHP's mostly - except now I'm out and they're not available! - and always have at least some unburned residue. Never enough to worry about, though. I'm shooting these in a 6-1/2" Blackhawk almost exclusively. I don't have my load data available at work but, it's not a stout load, IIRC. I got it off the Speer site, I think. The 4" .357's don't seem to like No.9 as well.
I need to check my load book but I "think" I did have a good 4" No.9 load worked up for the Colt Lawman. I'll look tonight after dinner and post the load and as much data as I have on it.The dam 4" struggle is real.
I'm working up loads for all the powders I have so I can deal with whatever is available. With #9 and 4227 leaving so much unburnt powder I will not use them for regular duty. I will try again with 180s in the carbine. I enjoy mag loads but so far siholloette seems my favorite in my 4" with cast. Enforcer is also available but that's going the wrong direction on the burn rate chart. If I can find #7 I'll pick up a pound to play with. I have a cronograph and it's a dam shame i cant use it at my local indoor range.Did you settle on a 2400 load or is still that in progress? Nice thread, I'm enjoying it!
13.7-14.5 with 2400.
14.1 with a fed spm was my choice. Unfortunately i.let the rso shoot one of those so number six is on the top.small circle.Did you ever get to try this loading….
I’m guessing mag primers will be good..
FWIW…I prefer thrm with 2400…
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I have considered and briefly discussed testing 4227 with an srp. In 308 my lrp seem to get it going.Okay I found an old note card from 2003 in the index:
Taurus 66 4" - 160gr. LRN @ 13gr/#52 No.9 avg.1190fps
I think that's a minimum or near minimum load for that bullet. #52 is the old red Lee dipper. I don't note the primer but I typically use SRP in slow pistol powders (except 2400) for magnums. If I kept the card and didn't note any problems, it's a good load.
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The good news: you can cast a 158-160gr LRN pretty easily. The bad news: I still have a box of those bullets and they're cast out of Linotype. Very hard stuff. I doubt that will make a big difference but just thought you'd need to know. IIRC, using a very high brisance primer makes a big difference.
Nope but I have only been loading this since the summer so I'm sure I might. A few higher on my list. I would love to find some ramshot true blue or accurate#7Anyone try CFE Pistol in 357? I have some and a new 357 Blackhawk.
Well, it's not documented or published so I don't recommend it.I have considered and briefly discussed testing 4227 with an srp. In 308 my lrp seem to get it going.
A lot of people seem to go very lite with the 357 bullets. I dont see a reason for anything less than a 140 and honestly I have one box of unused xtps bought on a whim. I figured I may keep them with a max load for sd but based on how often i practice and how my sights are adjusted i would be best off just using my cast loads. I'm even considering getting some 180xtps or fnsp for hunting, if i ever try that. My other mold is a 180 it just seems better suited to the lever which i should have late November. The game starts all over when that shows up.Velocity seems sufficient with 125 grain XTPs and it can push the wadcutters I have too. I moved to Winchester 231 for my 9mm except for HP and Lehigh loads, so I have most of a pound left. I have some 2400 too but have to split that with my cast 30-30 loads.
Some manuals caution against using them while others just say it's not necessary, with 2400.
Anyone try CFE Pistol in 357? I have some and a new 357 Blackhawk.
Firstly, NICE revolvers!Yes. It is my go to for 148 grain Hi-Tek coated cast double ended wad cutters, bevel base. Accurate with low velocity spreads and it gives the wad cutters a little thump. Standard primers.
38 Special cases, 148gr DEWCBB COAL 1.25”, roll crimp, 5.0 grains CFE Pistol
Velocity / barrel length
925 / 3 inch
950 / 4 inch
1020 / 6 inch
About 25,000 psi and absolute joy to shoot out of the two guns shown, out to 100 yards, clay pigeons on the berm, off hand. Hits like a sledge hammer and punches thru deer.