Bruno2
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I want to buy a single action 357 magnum . I was wondering what is out there and what is a good pistol ?
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Ruger's offerings go by different names: adjustable sights single actions are called blackhawks; fixed sights single actions are called vaqueros; both use a transfer bar system and can be safely loaded with 6 rounds (including one under the hammer); Uberti's offerings are more traditional SAA clones and you cannot place a loaded chamber under the hammer since the firing pin is attached to the hammer and protrudes through the firing pin hole when the hammer is at rest; Beretta Stampedes are made by Uberti but have transfer bar systems; Taurus Gauchoes also have a transfer bar system; these are the ones that I can remember off the top of my head; I own an Uberti Cattleman Hombre in .45 Colt which is an SAA clone and the Rugers are very popular and I am seeking to get a Blackhawk someday
Rontherunner
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I sure like my S&W 686 (mine is a 7 shot, but they make a 6 shot too). It's a Single action / double action.
Ben Shepherd
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Bruno- single sixes are 22s. security or speed sixes are 357.
The former is single action, the two latter are double action. If you want a good single action ruger in 357, it'll be in the blackhawk or vaquero line up.
The former is single action, the two latter are double action. If you want a good single action ruger in 357, it'll be in the blackhawk or vaquero line up.
My Blackhawk was bought about 1990.I have put quite a few thousand of 357 cartridges through it and carried as my hiking handgun in the N GA mountains. I shot it recently and it has not lost any accuracy. Cimmaron in their Model P replica of the Colt Peacemaker have a nice 357. I shot 38 Special mostly in it but it will handle 357's with no problems. The Blackhawk is the best as the adjustable sights are easily adjusted for you sight picture. Byron
greyling22
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the rugers are further complicated by having 2 frame sizes, and like 5 guns sharing 2 names. I may be a little off here, but it goes something liek this: the oldest blackhawks (called flat tops), the new vaquero's and the 50th anniversary blackhawks have a typical SAA frame size. the 3 screw blackhawks (also called old model blackhawks), new model blackhawks, and old model vaqueros have larger frames.
cdnn has 50th anniversary blackhawks for 360+shipping ($25) and ffl+tax if shipped to TX.
cdnn has 50th anniversary blackhawks for 360+shipping ($25) and ffl+tax if shipped to TX.
Bruno2
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has anybody owned a beretta stampede ?
MCgunner
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My 6.5" Blackhawk is a hunting revolver. I've taken a couple of deer with it.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=36061&d=1140748446
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=36061&d=1140748446
gwnorth
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You can also get a Blackhawk convertible, which comes with two cylinders - one chambered for .38spl/.357 magnum, and the other for 9mm. Since 9mm is still much cheaper then either .38spl or .357, it gives you an option for cheap range sessions.
Ruger also makes the Blackhawk convertible with .45colt/.45acp cylinders.
Ruger also makes the Blackhawk convertible with .45colt/.45acp cylinders.
Bruno2
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I want to buy a single action 357 magnum . I was wondering what is out there and what is a good pistol ? Has anyone owned a Beretta Stampede ?
I want to buy a single action 357 magnum . I was wondering what is out there and what is a good pistol ? Has anyone owned a Beretta Stampede ?
average_shooter
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What purpose are you looking to get one for? Woods carry, hunting backup, Cowboy Action Shooting, etc. ?
I looked at a Beretta Stampede but chose a Uberti Cattleman over it. The Stampede has a transfer bar system whereas the Cattleman is more true to the original Colt with a firing pin on the hammer. Also, when looking at them side-by-side, the Beretta was too pretty, I couldn't see myself putting it in a holster ever, and I wanted something more than just a safe queen.
My understanding is that since Beretta owns Uberti the Stampede is still Uberti manufacture, but Beretta finished. So it might be better internally, I know for a fact they're prettier externally, but aside from the finishing and the transfer bar they're pretty much the same.
If you're looking for something in single-action, but modern, of course the Ruger Blackhawk line would be the way to go. Or the Ruger New Vaquero if you still want an "old world" look and fixed sights.
I looked at a Beretta Stampede but chose a Uberti Cattleman over it. The Stampede has a transfer bar system whereas the Cattleman is more true to the original Colt with a firing pin on the hammer. Also, when looking at them side-by-side, the Beretta was too pretty, I couldn't see myself putting it in a holster ever, and I wanted something more than just a safe queen.
My understanding is that since Beretta owns Uberti the Stampede is still Uberti manufacture, but Beretta finished. So it might be better internally, I know for a fact they're prettier externally, but aside from the finishing and the transfer bar they're pretty much the same.
If you're looking for something in single-action, but modern, of course the Ruger Blackhawk line would be the way to go. Or the Ruger New Vaquero if you still want an "old world" look and fixed sights.
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Bruno2
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I wny it for plinking and maybe cas (if I can get over the costume thing ) . I was looking at the Beretta for a couple of reasons :1- I LIKE BERETTA and 2. I like the idea of the transfer in case me or my son drop it or something a long those lines . I know that nobody intends to drop a pistol worth at least $500.00 , but, stuff happens . One of my dads friends when I was growing up dropped a 22 target pistol (autoloader)and he tried to catch it and he shot himself in the side . It wasnt a terrible life threatening wound ,but ,it did get some organs . I know its a reflex , however if you start to fumble a loaded gun no matter how pretty it is or how expensive let it go .
and 2. I like the idea of the transfer in case me or my son drop it or something a long those lines . I know that nobody intends to drop a pistol worth at least $500.00 , but, stuff happens . One of my dads friends when I was growing up dropped a 22 target pistol (autoloader)and he tried to catch it and he shot himself in the side . It wasnt a terrible life threatening wound ,but ,it did get some organs . I know its a reflex , however if you start to fumble a loaded gun no matter how pretty it is or how expensive let it go .Bruno2
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Thanks Gunner for the link I like your gun . When I get mine I will post a pic for you . Try not to get distracted by the OU flag in the backdrop .
average_shooter
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For this reason it is imperative that you always load five leaving an empty chamber under the hammer when holstered, especially if your firearm has a hammer-mounted firing pin. In CAS you don't load more than five anyway, regardless of whether or not your pistol has a transfer bar system. For plinking you can load six assuming you leave the hammer at half-cock until you are ready to shoot.
But it sounds to me like a Ruger New Vaq. might be the way for you to go to get you started. Get used to that firearm, then re-visit the idea of getting a Beretta Stampede. Especially if you're worried about dropping it or getting it beat up in CAS you probably don't want that to happen to a very pretty Beretta. Let it happen to a Ruger.
Madcap_Magician
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I think a .357 Single Six would be called a Blackhawk.
CoRoMo
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Ruger Blackhawk
And if you opt for the convertible model, you'll get the 9mm cylinder and can use 3 different cartridges.
(9mm, .38spl, .357mag)
And if you opt for the convertible model, you'll get the 9mm cylinder and can use 3 different cartridges.
(9mm, .38spl, .357mag)
i have a ruger vaquero in .357 and its great its accurate durable and very stable
because of its weight i didnt even notice the .38sp through it the .38+p was barely noticable and the full house .357 was tame compaired to other revolvers ive fired that round through
so thats what i would recommend
i havent had the pleasure of owning a freddom arms but i do hear great things of there firearms so im sure that would be a good route to go too
because of its weight i didnt even notice the .38sp through it the .38+p was barely noticable and the full house .357 was tame compaired to other revolvers ive fired that round through
so thats what i would recommend
i havent had the pleasure of owning a freddom arms but i do hear great things of there firearms so im sure that would be a good route to go too
Dogbite
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If you have deep pockets, get a Freedom Arms. They are superb. If you dont have deep pockets, get a Ruger. I have owned many, they are excellent.
rklessdriver
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Freedom Arms is a very high end gun. Fairly expensive and worth every cent.
Colt SAA's are available in .357 and very nice. I have few from various generations. All are worth the price of admission.
A myrid of lesser priced SAA copies are availiable from the Italian mfgrs (Uberti, Pietta). Most are good guns. Don't forget about USFA, which is a superb USA built SAA that does not have the COLT name - but does have the price. There is also the Taurus but they don't have a great reputation.
Then there is the Ruger Blackhawk. A fine .357 pistol. Well built, well priced and easy to find. I bought my SO a 50th Anniversery. You can't go wrong with a Ruger Blackhawk.
You don't give a purpose/intended use or a price range for the pistol you are looking for - so its kinda hard to recommend one over the others. They all have their high points and drawbacks.
Will
Colt SAA's are available in .357 and very nice. I have few from various generations. All are worth the price of admission.
A myrid of lesser priced SAA copies are availiable from the Italian mfgrs (Uberti, Pietta). Most are good guns. Don't forget about USFA, which is a superb USA built SAA that does not have the COLT name - but does have the price. There is also the Taurus but they don't have a great reputation.
Then there is the Ruger Blackhawk. A fine .357 pistol. Well built, well priced and easy to find. I bought my SO a 50th Anniversery. You can't go wrong with a Ruger Blackhawk.
You don't give a purpose/intended use or a price range for the pistol you are looking for - so its kinda hard to recommend one over the others. They all have their high points and drawbacks.
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