.357 sig question
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BryanP
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That'll teach me to post when I'm half asleep. (gotta love allergies ...)
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walking arsenal
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I have to admit im fairly surprised at the resurfacing of this thread, for two reasons.
1. I opened this thread after receiving a glock 33 in .357 sig as a present from my dad and grandfather at my bachelors party (my bachelors party was held at a machine gun shoot, cool huh?) almost a year ago.
2. this thread popped back up almost to the date of when i posted it.
so far i like the round and its platform, it has performed well for me, i carry it daily.
My chosen loading for this gun is the 125 grn corbon jhp, which im also fond of.
up here in northern MN though the round isnt very popular and ammo is sometimes scarce or reaaaaaally expensive...........or both.
1. I opened this thread after receiving a glock 33 in .357 sig as a present from my dad and grandfather at my bachelors party (my bachelors party was held at a machine gun shoot, cool huh?) almost a year ago.
2. this thread popped back up almost to the date of when i posted it.
so far i like the round and its platform, it has performed well for me, i carry it daily.
My chosen loading for this gun is the 125 grn corbon jhp, which im also fond of.
up here in northern MN though the round isnt very popular and ammo is sometimes scarce or reaaaaaally expensive...........or both.
I think you're mistaken. It costs exactly the same as anywhere else in the continental U.S.
http://www.grafs.com/
http://www.ammoman.com/
Only if you're willing to buy over the internet (and in the case of ammoman.com, in bulk)--not everybody wants to so. Frankly, it's hard to find and expensive (and a lot of the dealers don't even want to take a 357 SIG in because they sit around too long) here as well (Central Texas) unless you want to drive two or three hours. Some folks just prefer to be able to run to a local gunshop or Wal-Mart and buy what they need--not always possible with the 357 SIG.
Do you think it's the great prices, not having to leave the house, or perhaps not paying sales tax that dissuades most people from buying on the web?
I suppose in the case of the two companies I listed, the free shipping might scare some folks off.
I don't know why. It's about the only way I buy ammunition, but a lot times when you recommend it as a way to say money or get hard to find ammo, they're just not interested. I guess it's just not for everybody.
FWIW, you don't really save any money by buying 9x19 over the internet--I can buy 9x19 locally (and pay the tax) as cheap as I can over the internet without the hassle.
FWIW, you don't really save any money by buying 9x19 over the internet--I can buy 9x19 locally (and pay the tax) as cheap as I can over the internet without the hassle.
MJRW,
The numbers I have quoted are just as I have said. If I said they were from short barrels, that is correct. If I said they were from standard barrels, that is also correct.
The best 357 sig number in a standard barrel is 92% and the best from a 4" barrel or less is 91%. That is exactly my point and what makes the 357sig unique because it retains most of its stopping power even in short barrels. That is what will probably help keep it around for a good long time.
It sounds like you want to argue just for the sake a arguing, so I will leave the argument to you and move on. I have said about all I know (and it didn't take long) in response to the original question on this post. Anything else would be repetition, digression or bickering and I respect everyone here too much to go there.
Best regards,
Roll Tide
The numbers I have quoted are just as I have said. If I said they were from short barrels, that is correct. If I said they were from standard barrels, that is also correct.
The best 357 sig number in a standard barrel is 92% and the best from a 4" barrel or less is 91%. That is exactly my point and what makes the 357sig unique because it retains most of its stopping power even in short barrels. That is what will probably help keep it around for a good long time.
It sounds like you want to argue just for the sake a arguing, so I will leave the argument to you and move on. I have said about all I know (and it didn't take long) in response to the original question on this post. Anything else would be repetition, digression or bickering and I respect everyone here too much to go there.
Best regards,
Roll Tide
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I suppose you are referring to the hassle of being able to order from your keyboard.
You are absolutely correct about 9mm. On the other hand, the less popular calibers like .357 SIG, (to pick a random example) are typically quite a good deal on the net. twoblink
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It's gotta be a cost issue...
For selfD, maybe better, but for punching paper, a 9mm is just fine and 50% cheaper..
For selfD, maybe better, but for punching paper, a 9mm is just fine and 50% cheaper..
No, the hassle can be finding it (if you don't know where to look or you normal supplier don't have what you want), using a credit card, checking the charges, tracking the shipment, messing with UPS (or FedEx), etc. It's a whole lot easier just pop down to the local firearms emporium, pick-up what you want, write a check and go shoot. Generally speaking, internet shopping is relatively hassle-free (if you have/use credit cards) but not always--I've have been charged more than I should have been, experienced delays (sometimes quite lengthy) in shipping, had UPS leave not leave the shipment (or leave it at the wrong address), had UPS leave it setting up my front porch in a pouring rain (ever had a 1000 loose rounds in your front yard--that needed mowing
). The other thing you are forgetting, is that for the most part, you really have to buy in bulk to realize any savings over the internet (even with the hard to find calibres like the 357 SIG)--particularly if you are buying from suppliers that actually have a wide selection of ammo (e. g., Natchez). There's a lot of people who may not want to lay out for 500 rounds of ammunition at one time, or who don't shoot enough to make it worthwhile.
For me, the internet is generally the best source for ammunition (even though it's not as hassle-free as you represented), but I shoot a lot of ammunition, can afford to spend two or three hundred dollars at one shot for ammunition and am not afraid to use my credit card over the internet, but I am probably the exception not rule.
It really boils down to most people really need to shoot a lot more than they do, and it's considerably less expensive and easier to do it with a 9x19 than a 357 SIG. When you couple that with the fact that there is not enough difference in effectiveness between the 9x19 and 357 SIG to make a difference, the 9x19 just makes better sense (unless you're a hobbyist or just like loud noise
).Overall, I've been lucky though I've been a less than happy camper a few times (and I buy about 90% of ammo on-line). I have on a couple of occassions been overcharged (usually on S/H), Georgia Arms has sent me the wrong ammo twice, and another company once. Unfortunately, there's been a time or two when the order has been really slow getting here when I needed it NOW. Part of my problem with UPS is that I now live in an apartment, and the office is not always open when UPS delivers, but the rain story was before I moved, and while I exagerrated the consequences a little, it really was a big mess. I daresay you watch it your transactions a little closer than you're admitting--or maybe I just like to keep better track of my money and my ammo than you do. I hope you good luck continues, but I've been ordering on line for well over ten years so I guess if you do anything long enough something can go wrong.
I usually recommend it when asked and am surprised by the number of people who simply don't want to do it for one reason or another. I think, sometimes, those of us who are relatively gun savvy and computer literate just assume everybody else is naturally, but it doesn't really seem to work out that way.
We're way off topic here. Are you about ready to can this line of exchanges?
I usually recommend it when asked and am surprised by the number of people who simply don't want to do it for one reason or another. I think, sometimes, those of us who are relatively gun savvy and computer literate just assume everybody else is naturally, but it doesn't really seem to work out that way.
We're way off topic here. Are you about ready to can this line of exchanges?
Because we're really not talking about ammo availability. We're really talking about the trials and tribulations of mail order ammunition, and maybe the fact that some people just flat won't do it (mail order ammo). It really has nothing to do with the 357 SIG (and probably more with you just wanting argue ).
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Talking about being off topic…
I just have to chime in. The statement “there's been a time or two when the order has been really slow getting here when I needed it NOW,†Really got me laughing. It just made me think of a situation where you’ve got somebody beating in your front door and you run to the computer to order ammo for your 357sig.
Sorry jc2 but I thought it was funny.
Gameface
I just have to chime in. The statement “there's been a time or two when the order has been really slow getting here when I needed it NOW,†Really got me laughing. It just made me think of a situation where you’ve got somebody beating in your front door and you run to the computer to order ammo for your 357sig.
Sorry jc2 but I thought it was funny.
Gameface
An amusing thought--and a good comment on depending on the internet for your ammunition.
My situation wasn't as dramatic. I had a weekend of shooting planned (on my only free weekend that month), and of course, the ammo didn't come until the following Tuesday (and yes, I had ordered early). Fortunately, it wasn't a calibre for I was dependent on the internet for ammunition.
The internet is in general a convenient and less expensive alternate source of ammunition. I think it is foolish (or at least very poor planning) to be totally dependent on it for your ammunition. If there is not at least fairly reasonable, dependable source supply for your ammunition locally, you really should be looking at a different calibre.
My situation wasn't as dramatic. I had a weekend of shooting planned (on my only free weekend that month), and of course, the ammo didn't come until the following Tuesday (and yes, I had ordered early). Fortunately, it wasn't a calibre for I was dependent on the internet for ammunition.
The internet is in general a convenient and less expensive alternate source of ammunition. I think it is foolish (or at least very poor planning) to be totally dependent on it for your ammunition. If there is not at least fairly reasonable, dependable source supply for your ammunition locally, you really should be looking at a different calibre.
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