375 H&H - Rifle Choice, Need your opinion

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I'm about to get a 375 H&H as a second rifle for dangerous game, bear and moose the others are a 300 WM and a 470 NE. I'm down to the Sako Kodiak and the Sauer 202 Classic. What are your thoughts?
Please note that being from Canada my choice of brand is very limited in the 375 and that ordering anything not in stock can take up to a year.
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the 375 H&H mag is is the cats meow to me, very flat shooting with ample energy with the right placement of your shot on any game in the world,i used a CZ 550 in botswana SA. taking all but the largest game. since i came home in july i bought a winchester 70 in 375H&H mag of my own for my next trip. now i will have the fun of working up the right load over the next 6 months. eastbank.
 

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Either of the two you name would be fine. Sako and Sauer each make fine weapons. Is there any possibility of purchasing a Steyr Mannlicher in Canada? That would be another fine choice.
 
Either would be a great choice. I looked at Sako before I bought my Winchester Safari Express. My SE is a new model and the floor plate is hinged with the release button in front of the trigger guard. I was able to get my M70 and Leopold VX3 scope for pretty much the price of just the Sako.
 
my model 70 was a safe queen made 1974 and has a swing down floor plate with a release to empty the inturnal magazine. i am going to mount a 1x6 leupold verx 111 on it . i just ordered RCBS reloading dies for it. eastbank.
 
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Eastbank-

I know the magazine is internal. Was the M-70 .375 ever made with a detachable magazine?

What I'm wondering is: where's the forward sling swivel! You gonna put it on the barrel, London-made style? I thought that USRAC/Winchester installed swivels?

If this gun was made in 1974, it does not have controlled round feeding. I don't let that bother me too much as the extractor is still pretty large, more so in proportion than that on the SMLE .303, which proved very reliable in battle.

Just don't short-stroke the bolt! W.D.M. Bell mentioned the possibility of doing that on a long-action rifle as being one reason why he preferred the 7X57mm (.275 Rigby) and the .318. He was very enthused by the .308 when it arrived, but that was long after his African days. He may have still hunted in Scotland.

FITA: If I wanted a .375 today, I'd get a Model 70, with the CZ and the Sako Safari Grade Classic (probably now discontinued on the Finnish rifle) running pretty close. Current Sakos in other models should be okay, but they don't have controlled round feeding. The present M-70 and the CZ do. The Winchester probably handles recoil best and has the best liklihood of local repair in the US. Don't know about Canada. Quebec may have a smaller selection than other provinces. I think the gun laws are worse there. Beretta owns Sako, so Beretta dealers should have the rifles.

Between the rifles cited, I'd get the Sako. I'd use factory ammo. And that's what you'll need if you have to buy more ammo in Africa or elsewhere. If you can find factory ammo loaded with Nosler Partition bullets in this caliber, it should be ideal for any game shot with softnose ammo. The Winchester Power Point should be good for most plains game, especially for side-on shots. I'd a bit rather have the Nosler on "raking" shots on quartering game, if you have to take such a shot. And I'd prefer the Nosler for frontal shots on lions.

Have you decided on a FMJ (solid) bullet? Which animals do you plan to hunt?
Remember, some may hunt YOU on short notice! I'd sure study the frontal brain shot on elephant and study where to hit a Cape buffalo at all angles. I presume that you know not to shoot at a lions' head, as the bullet will likely glance off and there's no skull where the mane is. I wonder where to hit a charging hippo? They are often very dangerous and with crocs, kill more people in Africa than any other animal.

Which make is your .470? Can you post pics?

Are polar bear hunts still legal? That's another very dangerous animal that may hunt you, as will crocodiles. I agree with the late Jeff Cooper that ALL polar bears and crocodiles should be regarded as potential man-eaters.
 
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I have a CZ550 in 416 rigby and I can't say enough nice things about this rifle. It is beautiful. However, if you're not dead set on a brand new rifle, Belgian Browning Safari's can still be had on Gun Broker. My 375 is a Belgian Browning and it set me back $1100.00. Quality, fit, finish and performance is 1st class.
 
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The rifle I'm jonesing for is the Win M70 Alaskan SS/Lam. I figure I'm much more likely to go on a 'frozen safari' after a brownie or elk in the north than I am to go get a lion/etc in Africa (though both are my dream). Win doesn't make them at the moment, so you may run into your year long wait. But you can get them from time to time on gunbroker. As I said: if you can get them up by you. To me for $1200-1500 it is the best deal going for that kind of gun.
Greg
 
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