Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by wild willy, Jun 19, 2020.
When I shot USPSA, I used WSF for 40S&W major power factor loads due to flexibility to maintain accuracy even down to mid-range load data compared to other slower burning powders. And for decades, I used WSF for duplicate factory JHP using same projectiles (Golden Saber, Gold Dot) for loading practice rounds as WSF produced higher velocities than other powders.
In recent years, I made the switch to BE-86 as it produced higher velocities and greater accuracy while maintaining flexibility to produce accuracy down to lower powder charges - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/rmrs-own-line-of-thick-plated-bullets.761471/page-4#post-9646469
If you can't find WSF, you can reference this thread to identify "comparable" powders - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/same-comparable-close-powders-under-different-labels.797388/page-6#post-10806193
This is my groupings of "relative" burn rate powders I use. If you want to identify powders with similar burn rate, look at powders in the same row.
Faster burning pistol powders:
E3 - Competition - Nitro 100 - N310 - Norma R1
Red Dot/Promo - IMR Red - Clays - 700X - Bullseye - Vectan Ba 10 - IMR Target - TiteGroup - Vectan AS - Am. Select - Solo 1000 - WST - International - Trail Boss - N320 - Vectan Ba 9.5 - No. 2 - Clean Shot/Lovex D032.03
W231/HP-38 - Zip - Sport Pistol - Green Dot - IMR Green
Slower burning pistol powders:
Unique - Universal - W244 - IMR Unequal - Vectan Ba 9 - BE-86 - Power Pistol - N330 - Vectan A1 - Herco - Vectan A0 - WSF - N340 - 800X
No. 5 - Auto Pistol/Lovex D036-03 - True Blue - HS6 - AutoComp - Ultimate Pistol/Lovex D036-07 - CFE Pistol - Silhouette - 3N37
N350 - 3N38 - IMR Blue - W572 - Blue Dot - No. 7 - Major Pistol/Lovex D037-01 - Vectan Ba 7.5 - Pro Reach - Long Shot - 2400
Enforcer - No. 9 - Heavy Pistol/Lovex D037-02 - 4100 - Steel - Norma R123 - N110 - Lil'Gun - W296/H110 - 300-MP - 11FS - Vectan Ba 6.5 - H4227
Alliant Sport Pistol with 165gr is unbelievably accurate
+1. I used W231/HP-38 for my 40S&W minor power factor loads.
165 gr FMJ/TCFP with 5.0 gr of W231/HP-38 was one of my reference loads.
As Walkalong posted, 180 gr lead/plated TCFP with 3.9-4.3 gr of W231/HP-38 will produce 9mm like lighter recoiling loads.
I replaced W231/HP-38 with Sport Pistol as it meters better with better temperature sensitivity.
I may do a side-by-side comparison.
That would be great, I sure like what I see from my limited use of Sport Pistol so far.
I have not been able to beat the short pleasant recoil impulse of 5.0 Grs W-231 and coated 180s in .40 yet though. Not at that velocity. Shoots great too.
WSF is in the mid/slow rate powder, are you loading full power loads? If you want target loads, Titegroup, IMR Target and WST all work really well. If you have N320 that also has a nice recoil profile.
For slower powders, I load Universal, N340 and CFE Pistol. Good luck!
Silhouette, Universal, AA#7, and Longshot are others that worked well for me.
Where are you located? I have an unopened lb. of WSF that I'm most likely not going to use. I've been using HS-6 and CFE pistol and getting good results for what I'm doing, so I'm probably not going to mess with the WSF afterall.
Longshot works well for .40, at least for 180s, haven't tried it with lighter pills, but it's loud.
Sort of off thread but I used Longshot in 9mm and could never figure out how it seems to be twice as loud as everything else,
I'm not a bullseye shooter by any means. My 40 is a compact I'm with night sights. So I'm happy with 3 of 5 touching at 15 yards.
Try Silhouette. In short barreled 40 S&W it is low flash. Here is a cut a paste from my reloading notes. This is data from a M&P Shield. I also use the same loads in a 4" Sig Elite with excellent results.
W231/HP-38, Universal, Longshot, Blue Dot.
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