40 Sheriffs in OK Asked to Disarm

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More LEO upset at being treated like ordinary citizens

In Oklahoma this time:
http://www.ktul.com/story/24972637/s...at-the-capitol
"Everybody in that building knew who we were," said Wagoner county sheriff Bob Colbert, who, along with 40 other sheriffs from around the state, converged on the capitol as they do every year to meet and greet and lobby. Until...

They were then given a choice, disarm or there's the door.

"So we all packed up and left," he said.
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It was in Minnesota that another group of police officers are suing because they are being treated as equals with ordinary citizens:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=744565&highlight=NFL

The Oklahoma Administrative Code which seems to prohibit firearms at the state capitol is:
http://www.oar.state.ok.us/oar/code...tmmak31ctijujrgcln50ob7ckj42tbkdt374obdcli00_

580:10-7-3. Park use information
(a) Conditions. The provisions of this section shall apply to the use of the State Capitol Park, which includes all demonstrations or events approved by the Director pursuant to this Subchapter.
(8) Possession of firearms, explosives, clubs, missiles, chemicals, incendiary devices, or other weapons is prohibited.
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And this, applicable to state buildings:
http://www.oar.state.ok.us/oar/code...tmmak31ctijujrgcln50ob7ckj42tbkdt374obdcli00_

580:10-9-23. General operating procedures
(c) The following requirements shall be performed pursuant to applicable state and federal laws and regulations:
(2) Weapons. No person entering or while on-property shall carry or possess firearms or other dangerous or deadly weapons, unless authorized to do so by state or federal laws.
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I can't find anything else in OK law prohibiting firearms at the Capitol, but I might be missing something.

I wonder why the felt like they couldn't just secure their firearms wherever every other citizen is expected to?
 
Cry me a river.
It's about time they remembered where they came from. If they don't like it, too bad. They can surrender their fat pensions and paychecks on their way out the door.
 
An interesting quagmire. I don’t believe that LEO’s should have any exemption, that is not available to the average citizen, unless they are on official duty. Case in point, a citizen has to pass a background check to obtain a CCW. However, LEO’s are exempt from some of the conditions that would prohibit the average person from purchasing or possessing a firearm or obtaining a CCW. Particularly violations related to domestic violence and I’m sure that there are other exemptions “Due to their profession.” So who presents the lower risk?

To go a step further, here in Arizona, LEO’s are exempt from the prohibitions of “Gun free zone” regulations. But I wonder how that will apply to venues when a major event sponsor like the NFL and NASCAR enforce their rules.
 
Yep, it's tough when you're a 2nd class citizen and get treated like us 3rd classes.

Life's tough all over.

Of course if the 1st class citizens (politicians) fix this problem they'll revise the law to exempt the cops but leaving the peons where they are.


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Citizens face the same bad guys police officers do. Therefore, I think if politicians say it's good enough for self defense, that should be good enough for LEOs who have "more training" and backup. I think the law should apply to LEO just like it applies to us.
 
As a LEO, I enjoy reading these 'discussions' and very rarely chime in,but I do have a question for you guys- Am I to understand that if I am off duty, then I am no longer a cop? If that's the case, then I have no duty to do anything more than a non-LEO in situations, or is more expected of me by the public? So, when I come across someone in public that did time in prison because of my case they will see me in civilian clothes and separate my job from my personal life?

As with anything job, there are bad apples out there which is very unfortunate because the general public places a lot of trust in us and when one cop abuses it, or deems that laws dont apply to them, it makes us all look bad.

As someone who used to bash cops on a regular basis before I became one, may I recommend that the LEO bashers on here <be quiet> about something they do not know about. Your ignorance is showing and it is not flattering.
 
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So, when I come across someone in public that did time in prison because of my case they will see me in civilian clothes and separate my job from my personal life?
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You're looking at this from the wrong perspective. Nobody wants to disarm off-duty police officers--they just don't believe they should have special privileges.

The operative issue here is that this person is "in public". That means that this person whom you believe is potentially violent and irrational enough to take on an officer of the law has the same access to everyone else as he does to you. If he's crazy enough to take you on to settle a grudge, I figure he's crazy enough to take an old lady on for a $20 bill.

I don't have anything against an off-duty LEO being armed in public, as long as every other law-abiding citizen can exercise the same right to be armed in public.
 
Un-fricking-believable!!

40 Sheriffs Asked to Disarm :eek:

Gun-grabbing fever has finally reached the conservative stronghold of Oklahoma.

An annual meet-and-greet at the Oklahoma State Capitol in Oklahoma City turned sour when an anonymous senator demanded that the 40 sheriffs in attendance remove their firearms.

http://therighttobear.com/40-oklaho.../?utm_source=140420RTB&utm_campaign=140420RTB

Sheriffs Walk Out :D

Gun-grabbing fever became a hot topic in Oklahoma when 40 sheriffs walked out of the state Capitol building after an anonymous senator demanded they remove their firearms.

According to KTUL-TV, sheriffs and legislators come together annually for a meet-and-greet at the Oklahoma State Capitol in Oklahoma City, where they discuss the needs of the state while getting to know each other better.

On Friday, after entering the Capitol for this year's event, the state's sheriffs were confronted and given an ultimatum: Disarm or leave the building.

http://www.newsmax.com/US/sheriffs-Oklahoma-guns-capitol/2014/03/17/id/560010/
 
Good for them. Hopefully they get that senator fired. Why is the senator anonymous?? It needs to be published so the voters can take needed action.

Glad we have preemptive authority here. I can carry in the capitol building in Oregon as can any CHL holder. Even open and long guns too. The Anti's tried to get that changed after the last flurry. Got shot down.
 
I hope y'all bring his anonymous senator's identity to light and vote his tail out of office.
 
Pretty typical for legislators to exempt themselves (and their space) from laws they don't like.

Good on the sheriffs for walking.
 
I certainly hope there were no more then 40 Sheriffs in the building.

If even one stayed behind and didn't walk out, that would be a truly sad situation.

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