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A 431 is SS, and a 441 is blued.
Best, Rich
(former 441 owner)
45 ACP or 44 SPL (for my wife)
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A 431 is SS, and a 441 is blued.
Best, Rich
(former 441 owner)
We went to the gun show this weekend and I had her pick up a 4 inch 629 partial lug and a 4 inch 686 full lug. She thought both handled and balanced well. We didn’t see any 24s or 696s. We also went shooting at a friends place and she loved his old police issue model 10. She kept commenting about how smooth the trigger was but still preferred shooting my 629 because it was easier to see the big holes on the paper. I’m pretty sure we’ll get a 629 like the one at the show or maybe a mountain gun. This isn’t a carry piece so the large frame is fine. She has never commented about the grip or trigger reach being two long. She just doesn’t want something too small, something too heavy, or something too fast. I don’t have a 45 ACP revolver for her to try and it would be kind of hard to convince her that it would kick less than my USP so 44 spl it is.
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If she likes .38's, then get her a Model 10, Model 64 (if you live in humid climates) or a Model 67 (if she's an adjustable sight person)
Otherwise, I have no input. But both the M21TR and M22TR look about as good as you can get in a fightin' sixgun.
Otherwise, I have no input. But both the M21TR and M22TR look about as good as you can get in a fightin' sixgun.
ken B
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We don't have a .44 special, but my wife TOOK OVER my 625 .45!!
so I can't compare to the .44 special, but I know my 625 5" I bought for revolver class got taken over by my wife...
she HATES the recoil generated (to her) by autos. We tried all 9mms (S&W, Glock, Taurus, Browning) and a few .380s (Browning and a few cheapies) and hated them. She shot my 1911 once with my 170 pf hardball ammo. Never would touch it...
now..i get a 625 from a friend, put some Miculek grips for me to shoot revolver class...it is now her pistol and will stay with her during the divorce (not sure if there is one on layayay or not
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she can shoot factory WWB hardball, my 170 pf loads, or Federal Hydrashocks and she doesnt' feel a thing. It's the 5" barrel, so maybe it has enough heft out front but she loves it. She also shoots our 686, M64 3", and Model 10 4" and she will swear that the 625 recoils/moves/flips less and is quicker for her to index. it's also the only one she is comfortable shooting DA.
she's not a big girl either, 5'6"/120ish...but we don't have a .44 to compare. I think the .45, if you want a large bore, is the ticket. ammo is easy to find. we bought a $7.00 screwdriver-like tool to flip empties off the moonclips, and I bought enough we can load up 240 rounds to head to the range, and then it honestly doesn't take long to snap the empties off..haven't tried the plastic ones
my wife's opinion..she's happy with the 625...sorry had to chime in :O)
kb
so I can't compare to the .44 special, but I know my 625 5" I bought for revolver class got taken over by my wife...
she HATES the recoil generated (to her) by autos. We tried all 9mms (S&W, Glock, Taurus, Browning) and a few .380s (Browning and a few cheapies) and hated them. She shot my 1911 once with my 170 pf hardball ammo. Never would touch it...
now..i get a 625 from a friend, put some Miculek grips for me to shoot revolver class...it is now her pistol and will stay with her during the divorce (not sure if there is one on layayay or not
)she can shoot factory WWB hardball, my 170 pf loads, or Federal Hydrashocks and she doesnt' feel a thing. It's the 5" barrel, so maybe it has enough heft out front but she loves it. She also shoots our 686, M64 3", and Model 10 4" and she will swear that the 625 recoils/moves/flips less and is quicker for her to index. it's also the only one she is comfortable shooting DA.
she's not a big girl either, 5'6"/120ish...but we don't have a .44 to compare. I think the .45, if you want a large bore, is the ticket. ammo is easy to find. we bought a $7.00 screwdriver-like tool to flip empties off the moonclips, and I bought enough we can load up 240 rounds to head to the range, and then it honestly doesn't take long to snap the empties off..haven't tried the plastic ones
my wife's opinion..she's happy with the 625...sorry had to chime in :O)
kb
Just another thought.
You might consider a good quality .38 Spl. like the Model-67 S&W. 130 grain FMC .38's are quite reasonable price wise for practice with fairly mild recoil in a "K" or "L" frame.
For home defense the revolvers here are loaded with "Magsafe" ammunition.
The good news: 1) If a bad guy is missed, this kind of round will not leave your home, neither will it pass through walls endangering other members of the family, nor will it ricochet. 2) It’s very effective in stopping bad guys from what they were doing that caused them to be shot in the first place. 3) Recoil is quite mild.
The bad news: 1) It also won't penetrate cover or concealment in most cases. 2) It’s quite expensive. 3) The POA/POI (point of aim Vs point of impact) will not be the same as any other round of which I am aware. (At home defense distances, that should not be the factor.)
Just a thought.
Kent
You might consider a good quality .38 Spl. like the Model-67 S&W. 130 grain FMC .38's are quite reasonable price wise for practice with fairly mild recoil in a "K" or "L" frame.
For home defense the revolvers here are loaded with "Magsafe" ammunition.
The good news: 1) If a bad guy is missed, this kind of round will not leave your home, neither will it pass through walls endangering other members of the family, nor will it ricochet. 2) It’s very effective in stopping bad guys from what they were doing that caused them to be shot in the first place. 3) Recoil is quite mild.
The bad news: 1) It also won't penetrate cover or concealment in most cases. 2) It’s quite expensive. 3) The POA/POI (point of aim Vs point of impact) will not be the same as any other round of which I am aware. (At home defense distances, that should not be the factor.)
Just a thought.
Kent
Hi WC.
The .38 Special Wadcutter is one outstanding anti-personnel round! A gentleman (I have long forgotten his name) wrote a book regarding "Nose Configuration Factor." He was a fluid engineer and believed in the Hatcher Formula (Mass x velocity x cross-sectional area x nose configuration factor = relative stopping power), but believed that Hatcher’s 1.25 for all nose configurations other than round nose was incorrect.
First he did the computer modeling and then the testing using gelatin blocks. His findings were, as far as I can remember, the following:
Round Nose : 1.0 (Lead and FMC)
Semi-Wadcutter : 1.5
Truncated cone : 1.6
Best Hollow Point: 3.3
Wadcutter : 3.5
The good news also is that a wadcutter will always function the same, can’t be damned up by clothing or building materials, straight lines through soft tissue unlike round nose projectiles and tends to “cookie cut” its way through cover, even at shallow angles. Additionally, in the case of the .38 Special it has a low impulse.
I wish they made them in .44 Special or .45 Colt at ~ the same velocity at the .38. That would be something indeed.
Kent
The .38 Special Wadcutter is one outstanding anti-personnel round! A gentleman (I have long forgotten his name) wrote a book regarding "Nose Configuration Factor." He was a fluid engineer and believed in the Hatcher Formula (Mass x velocity x cross-sectional area x nose configuration factor = relative stopping power), but believed that Hatcher’s 1.25 for all nose configurations other than round nose was incorrect.
First he did the computer modeling and then the testing using gelatin blocks. His findings were, as far as I can remember, the following:
Round Nose : 1.0 (Lead and FMC)
Semi-Wadcutter : 1.5
Truncated cone : 1.6
Best Hollow Point: 3.3
Wadcutter : 3.5
The good news also is that a wadcutter will always function the same, can’t be damned up by clothing or building materials, straight lines through soft tissue unlike round nose projectiles and tends to “cookie cut” its way through cover, even at shallow angles. Additionally, in the case of the .38 Special it has a low impulse.
I wish they made them in .44 Special or .45 Colt at ~ the same velocity at the .38. That would be something indeed.
Kent
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