Here's the question should I buy the S&W .45 acp revolver right away or should I wait for the possible release of the Charter Arms .45 Pitbull. Obviously cost could play a role but maybe quality is more important wat do you wheel gunners think?
You can always go with a good used Smith which might work out to be close in price to a new Charter Arms revolver. I'm a big fan of the S&W N frame line. I think there are no better revolver in production today than the N frames.^
No , I'm sorry for any confusion I may have caused in no way whatsoever am I thinking CA are better than S&W, are they even close in quality (seriously asking)? It really more than likely is boiling down to the price for me, if that helps. But if the quality was that much greater price could be less of a concern.
Charter Arms is back to it's old glory because the Ecker family is back at the company. They went through a few incarnations, all not very good especially the Charter Arms 2000 ownership. Today their revolvers are again top shelf although I like the S&W revolvers better, especially the older Smiths.You betcha, and I was happy with a CA .44 spl. Bulldog for years. I'm hearing good things about current production CA too.
BUT, how old is that revolver? Was it bought during those years when QC was not even thought about? The current management has only been back for a little over 3 years if I can remember correctly...Well, here's a little to temper the good things about current CA quality:
I have a 18-month old .357 mag. Mag Pug:
The trigger is awful, if you wish to rate it. It's gritty on SA, has the "stacking" on DA (and the grittiness). The ported barrel may help with muzzle flip, but prevents the use of "snake shot".
The front sight is WAY too high, causing major low groups. So bad that I had to machine down my front sight myself in order to get it to hit paper at 25 feet.
The "middle" screw in the frame loosens and requires retightening about every 25 rounds.
All in all, it was worth the money IF one considers it a seldom-used weapon of last resort.
Would I ever buy another CA? NO!
Isn't this the same mechanism as their current .40S&W revolver? Does anyone have one of those, to comment on MrBorland's concerns? I would be curious to hear.The other issue I have with the system is reliability: First, each of those pins in the ejector look spring-loaded, and springs can & will break. Also, the ejector area in a revolver is a pretty dirty place, so I'm concerned about the spring-loaded pin's sensitivity to crud. Finally, as the round is fired, the case is pushed back - normally against the recoil shield, which reseats the primer. In the CARR system, the fired case looks like it's retained by the pin in the ejector, so it takes up a lot of that force - how long can it do so until it develops issues? And if the case doesn't hit the back of the recoil shield when fired, what's resetting the primer? A primer that doesn't reset can certainly affect the action, or even tie the gun up.
I agree, moon clips can make the best speed loader.Unless I'm missing something, you have to load the rounds individually.