45 Colt Gallery Loads

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Foto Joe

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Thanks to Scrat for bringing these loads to our attention in March of '09, but I think it might be time to re-visit this particular load for those like myself who just discovered it. There have been numerous recent posts regarding BP cartridge loads so this hopefully will interest a few here.

I broke out my Peacemaker this summer and decided to load it the way Colt's originally intended, 40gr and a 235 to 250 lead bullet. For those of you who have never fired this load, it's an attention getter to say the least. 40gr in a Dragoon or a Walker is mild, but a Peacemaker doesn't have the weight of those two so it's a whole 'nother experience shall we say.

The problem that I ran into was that with a cartridge gun, it's too easy to eat through 50 rounds in short order, which translates into considerable expense in powder when you consider that you are only going to get 175 cartridges out of a pound of powder with that load, not to mention that if you don't cast your own bullets they too are expensive. Other factors include the fact that 40gr of 3f repeatedly fired gets the gun extremely hot and dirty.

In steps the "Gallery Load".
I think I've found my "Pet Load" regarding these and it seems to be perfect for my particular gun, your mileage may vary.

All measurements are by weight, not volume and the brass remains unsized to reduce blow-back.

20 gr 3f Swiss, 15gr corn meal, veggie wad, compress using a compression plug from T.O.T.W., then 5 gr cornmeal to act as a seat for the round base of the ball to rest on. My opinion on this, is that it helps prevent the wad from wrapping around the ball and aids in the separation of the wad from the ball once out of the barrel. Before I add the last 5gr of corn meal I scrape some SPG Lube from a stick around the inside of the case mouth, about as much as you would find in a medium lube groove. Homemade lube pills would do just fine as the corn meal and veggie wad would insulate the powder from contamination.

The ball seats just above the half way point and I use just a light crimp from the ball seating die (Lee). I also rub some SPG on the exposed ball before I box them.

What a Great Round!! Accuracy at 20-25 yards is superb and there is more than enough smoke to satisfy your needs. Even though my marksmanship is more suited to shotguns than revolvers, I managed to hit a quarter with my second round at 20 feet with one of these, I'm sold.

I haven't chronographed them yet but I'm guessing 700-800 fps should be about right.

The next step will be 44 Russian in the Schofield that is waiting for me to pick up in Arizona in a couple of weeks. Then who knows, how about 44 mag/special in an 1895 Marlin??

If you've got a "Pet Gallery Load", let's hear about it. Chrony results would be cool too.

Please understand, I would never forsake my percussion pistols. What better way to use the time spent letting the 45 cool down than to load CB's?
 
I used to load a Speer .433"(?) round ball over a light charge of 4756(IIRC) in .44 special brass.
It was a fun, mild load. I also used to load 2 round balls over a mild powder charge, just for the fun of making 2 holes in the target with one shot.
Haven't tried a BP gallery load. Guess I could load .44 special with BP and a ball and shoot it from the stainless Taurus M44 or Ruger Redhawk .44 mag.
Should be really interesting in the Taurus. It has a ported barrel with built-in expansion chamber compensator. Should be plenty of fire and smoke going skyward from those ports.

I need to get some .45 Colt brass so I can make some smokeless gallery loads for my EAA Big Bore Bounty Hunter.
Or maybe make some gallery loads for my stainless Ruger single six .32 H&R mag, using BP/Pyrodex and 0 or 00 buckshot.
Should be pretty darned cheap to shoot.
 
That's good info Joe. Thanks for posting. Question though....

Foto Joe said:
The ball seats just above the half way point and I use just a light crimp from the ball seating die (Lee). I also rub some SPG on the exposed ball before I box them.

The ball seats above or below the halfway point? Seems like the ball should sit more than halfway below the casing's head. Or am I upside down thinking about this? :scrutiny:
 
What I found for me, was that if I wanted to have a good Crimp, I would re-size a larger Ball in the Sizing Die to then have a small - maybe 1/8th Inch wide - 'Equator' which is a flat Band of specific diameter...and, Crimp into it.


Otherwise a Ball which has not been re-sized, one would Crimp onto or into the exact Equator since that is the only area, infinitely narrow though it be in an un-re-sized Ball, the only area where the Ball's diameter will meet the Cartridge Case, and, the only area able to Crimped by the end-edge of the Cartridge Case.


With Smokeless, it is critical that the Ball is Crimped in well, with the Crimp being literally pushed into the exact equator so that the Ball can neither move in, or out.

With Black Power, ideally, the Ball is tightly against a compressed Charge, preventing it from being pushed in by anything, and the Crimp may then be slightly over the Equator, keeping the Ball from moving out.


Sizing a larber Ball down to size allows a nice flat 'band' to Crimp into for either kind of Powder...and, allows a slightly heavier Ball, of course, too.
 
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ClemBert said:
The ball seats above or below the halfway point? Seems like the ball should sit more than halfway below the casing's head. Or am I upside down thinking about this?

Since I don't have a bullet sizing die, I have no equator to crimp into. I simply seat the ball slightly below the half way point. I'm not using a crimp die, simply the Lee bullet seating die which puts a slight crimp on. This is facilitated by the fact that I don't re-size the brass. They actually look pretty good, kinda like a factory made 'em. I do smear some SPG on around the exposed ball before I box them as well as the SPG that I scrape into the case before seating the ball.

After re-reading Scrat's original post from last year, I've changed my assembly process slightly on the last batch.

This time I loaded the 20gr of 3f and pushed a veggie wad down on top of the powder with a dowel compression handle I made, probably around 15 pounds of pressure. Then I filled the brass with corn meal (15gr by weight) and put another veggie wad on top of the corn meal and compressed that with my compression plug on the press to about half the diameter of the ball. When I seat the ball it comes down onto the wad just a little more. The corn meal will compress to just about any depth you like as it is very soft.

My thinking on this is that when I just put the corn meal on top of the powder, I'm probably losing some of the effectiveness of the top layer of powder. Now I have a completely contained charge between the bottom of the brass and the veggie wad. I'll have to load a few both ways and chronograph them to tell if it made a difference, I may just be wasting wads.

I've also heard of people using just powder, wad and ball. They seat the ball down inside the case well below the top of the brass. That would probably work, but I don't like the way they look. Presentation is important don't ya know.
 
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