454 Casull, 45 Colt....45ACP?

[Redhawk1]

I clean all my guns after each range secession. But if I am shooting my converted 454 Casull, I don't clean the cylinders after shooting 45 ACP's and then my 454 Casull's in the same range secession.

If you look at the cylinder after the modification you would see how little material is removed from the actual cylinder, the extractor is thinners also, but that plays no role in the integrity of the cylinder.

 

[edrice]

If you look at the cylinder after the modification you would see how little material is removed from the actual cylinder, the extractor is thinners also, but that plays no role in the integrity of the cylinder.

Yeah, this was something I wondered about before having my .45 Colt 625 converted to use moonclips. But after looking at a .45 Colt cartridge seated in the cylinder, you see just how small the gap is and this is part where the casehead is thicker anyway. It seems if the case integrity were really an issue, then you'd probably have a problem even without the conversion.

Ed

 

[Redhawk1]

I am more than sure the custom gunsmiths did there home work before doing such a conversion.

I trust mine 100%

 

[Markbo]

Markbo, but will he still be able to shoot 454 Casull, 45 Colt....45ACP and 45 Win Mags??? I don't think so.

Well the OP never asked about the .45 Win mag. That could still be done in the existing .454 cylinder anyway. The .45 ACP cylinder is a standard edition to .45's for cheap, accurate ammo - expecially for those that don't reload.

I think that you could typicall expect better accuracy with a dedicated ACP cylinder. Keep in mind I am referring specifically to Ruger's and not S&W's.

However... I see no need personally to shoot the .45 WinMag OR the .45ACP in a Casull chambered gun when all you have to do is download the .454 or the .45 Colt. Personally... and this is purely personal choice... I don't like moon clips. They are just a hassle to mess with.

 

[Redhawk1]

Markbo, just because you personally don't like the moon clips or the thought of shooting 45 ACP's or 45 Win Mags in a 454 Casull, what does that have to do with the subject at hand? . Also as far as the 45 Win Mag and the OP, sure he was not asking, but it is nice if someone else knows about it and can elaborate about it. I was just giving my actual experience not what I think or my opinion.
What actual experiences do you have with such a conversion?

 

[Markbo]

What does it have to do with the subject at hand? Did you even read my post? My post was giving the OP some information he may not have had that there is an alternative - exactly the same thing you did.

Do you think you are the only member here that has any experience? You are certainly good at posting your opinion, then calling someone else out if they have a different opinion than you, I'll give you that.

I have experience with all the calibers mentioned and a lot more, I have over a dozen Ruger big bores and other brands as well - including 5 Redhawks. I have been shooting handguns for over 35 years, I am a handloader and wildcatter. I not only shoot wildcats, I have developed my own from scratch. I have taken big game and small game with handguns. I own and regularly shoot a handgun that will handle the vaunted .454 as a reduced load.

My carry in the field gun is a 4.5" .475 Linebaugh and the .44 mag is about the minimum caliber that holds my interest - except for the .32 H&R which I am quite sticken with. I own a Ruger conversion and it is quite accurate with both rounds and I personally find it much easier, handier and faster to simply discharge and reload one chamber at a time - in a single action of course. It is obvious that you are a moon clip fan, but I have owned and shot revolvers with moon clips and find them to be a bit of a pain and I tend to focus on rounds that were developed for revolvers so that they aren't ever needed.

Mostly because there is no round that requires moon clips who's ballistics cannot be duplicated with a comensurate rimmed straight walled pistol cartridge. If you are a big fan, that is just great... I'm happy for you. I don't happen to be.

Now are you satisfied that I have the experience necessary to post in the same thread as you?

 

[Redhawk1]

No I am not satisfied, DO YOU HAVE EXPEANCE WITH THE MOON CLIP CONVERSION?

I don't care if you have experience with all the different rounds, only the conversion as the original poster asked about.
I am really not a big moon clip fan, I just happen to have a conversion the poster asked about.

My problem with your post is, not that it differs from my experience, but why post about a moon clip conversion when you have no actual experience with the conversion and cylinder modification needed to accept moon clips, and then post how you dislike moon clips. I did not see where the original poster asks for opinions on this subject, but if it could be done. Your first post was how Ruger has the 2 different cylinders, nothing to do with moon clips, except that you don't like them. So what help did your post do?

So lets try to stay on topic here..

 

[Markbo]

I don't care if you have experience with all the different rounds, only the conversion as the original poster asked about. I am really not a big moon clip fan,

I really don't care what you want. My posts were given to the OP. If you don't like my opinions, feel free to ignore them since as far as I know, you are not the thread police.

...sure he was not asking, but it is nice if someone else knows about it and can elaborate about it

So only you are allowed to do that?

I believe that my opinion that moon clips are not needed to enjoy shooting the gun and that they are a pain in the butt IS germaine to the OP's inquiry. And I'm sorry... have we met? How do you know what my experience is or is not?

I never said I was not familiar with the alteration of a cylinder to accept moon clips. He never mentioned whether he has ever used a revolver with moon clips as you have and as I have so it might actually be good information to offer someone inquiring about a potentially expensive conversion.

You don't know whether the information is useful to the OP or not but want to chastise me to stay on topic after your above statement?

Whatever dood

Simple Guy... I hope my experience is of some value to you.

 

[Redhawk1]

OK get your panties out of a wad there dude....

Just trying to let you know, what the topic was about. If you want to start a new thread about how you hate the moon clips, be my guest.

Now have a nice day...