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alrichey

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Sorry in advance for the long post. I collect .45's but I am not by any means an expert. My wife and I keep these pistols in various vehicles, etc and for carry.

However she recently told me she didn't like that some of them had safety's that went up and some that had safety's that went down to arm. For example her primary gun is a para ordinance and the saftey goes down.

So anyway I have to replace two of our 45's

REPLACE Ruger P345
REPLACE S&W 4506-01

I had our gun shop recommend a Taurus 45 ACP 2417 Pro but I have no experience with the brand. Can anyone recommend a .45 that is high quality, smaller if possible and the safety goes down to arm?

Thanks very much for the help.
 
I agree with her. Keep it consistent.
I thought just about all 1911 style .45's had safeties that went down? If you don't mind not having a manually operated safety there is also the glock/sprinfield XDs that have great reliability.
 
H&K has a lot of available configurations. I know that most of them include a safety. I'm pretty sure you can configure them without a safety too.

I'm a big 1911 fan but the USP compact in 45 is one sweet piece.
 
Sig 220. One in the pipe, decock it and it's safe and good to go.

No safety to mess with, squeeze the trigger and it fires. Done deal.
 
I like Taurus, but for the price, you might want to look at Springfield's XD Compact in .45 ACP. It's about as foolproof a pistol as you'll find, handles much like a 1911 (without a decock lever) and can be safely carried with a one in the pipe. I have the .40 service model as a duty gun - it's great to shoot, easy to handle, and lots of after market stuff. Good price for an outstanding pistol, IMO.

:)
 
A 1911 does not have a decock lever. It has a thumb safety, grip safety, and on some manufacturers' models (e.g. Kimber Series II and Colt Series 80) a firing pin safety. The Colt Series 70 and Springfield Armory 1911s are two choices that do not have a firing pin safety.

To safely decock a 1911, you should drop the magazine, rack the slide to remove a chambered round, and then drop the hammer.

The 1911 can be safely carried "cocked and locked." While it might look scary, it's no more hazardous than carrying a Glock or one of the other plastic pistols. A 1911, in my opinion, is safer as it has two manual safeties that must be disengaged before the gun will fire. Whereas the plastic pistols have but one (arguably useless) manual safety built into the trigger. The plastic pistols rely on a firing pin safety that's disengaged when the trigger is pulled. You can buy a 1911 with a similar firing pin safety if desired.

An exception is the Springfield Armory XD. It has both a (arguably useless) manual safety built into the trigger and a grip safety borrowed from the 1911. So for the XD, you have a plastic pistol with one practical manual safety.

I too recommend the 1911. While it might be a pain to field strip compared to the plastic pistols, it has one of the largest, if not the largest, following. It's one of the most comfortable and natural to point .45 caliber handguns available.
 
You could just keep both of the guns you have, hit the safety to decock them, flip the safety off, and not worry about it. Both of those guns are (or were) offered in decock only versions so it's a perfectly safe option.

As for the Taurus, stay away. I've said it many times, but I'll repeat; we see far too many poly frame Taurus pistols returned for service for me to recommend them.
 
Sorry to be so vague, we being myself and fellow employees at a large gunshop in Northeast Georgia.
 
I have 2 Taurus 24/7 Pro 45's

One for carry and one for fun at the range.

The one I carry has about 500 rounds of Taurus Pure copper HEX through it since that is what I used to carry, all the rounds went off with out a hitch. I know carry Federal FC-45HST1 and again I put 500 rounds of it through the pistol before I starting using it for carry ammo. I get it here because its the cheapest I have found it

http://www.streichers.com/ProductDetail.aspx?Catalog=Guns and Ammo&Category=AMMO_DHAND&Prod=FC-45HST

The only reason I use the +P is because I did not want to use 2 differnt kinds of ammo in my carry weapons which are the 24/7 and the PT145 MilPro. I ran 100 rounds of it in that so far. Gets a bit pricey making sure pistols work 100% but its worth it and I get in some extra range time. Anyway back to the other 24/7 I have for range use.

This one has 9500 rounds through it in about 10 months. I tent to put 500 rounds through it each range trip which is every 2 weeks. Sometimes we make it to the range 3 times a month and sometimes we might miss a trip for what ever reason. I am trying to get as many rounds through it as I can to show people that this pistol can hang with the big boys in the dependablity market and in some cases for half the price. So far I have not had a malfunction that was not ammo related. I have used all CCI Blazer Brass from Wal-Mart and come across about 10 rounds total out of the 9500 that would not go bang. Tried them on the 2nd strike and again nothing. Tried them in my PT1911 and still no bang. I have had zero yes zero misfeeds of any kind with any of the new Taurus pistols I own, which includes. PT1911 two 24/7 Pro 45's (one is a 2006 model one is a 2007) PT 145 PT111 PT92 I have had a little trouble with an old PT25 and I bought a new one that has the same issue with the only 25 ammo I have. I have had a few jams with my wifes little PT22 but only on Federal bulk pack cheapo stuff from Wal-Mart. Remington seems to work fine so who knows.

Sorry for the long read but I thought it might help you make up your mind ;)

If the 24/7 seems to big for your needs look in to the PT145, or wait a few weeks and the 24/7 compact will be out in 45
 
Didn't mean to suggest that 1911's had a decocking lever - was trying to indicate that the XD handles much like a 1911, but (unlike several other brands of pistols in .45' ACP) does not have one. The XD is a great pistol, easy to shoot, easy to carry, and just about unbreakable in everyday use. I carried a 1911 for a few years. After 12-14 hour shifts, I could hardly wait to get the damn thing off my hip! Great shooter - but a positive dead weight that gets to you after several hours every day.

I carry the XD (in .40) every shift. A whole lot lighter and easy on this old body! As far as 'plastic gun' - from what I've seen, the stuff the frame is made of is stronger than the steel they used back in the day for all those wheel guns and semi's I was stuck with until the 'plastic gun' came along.

And give me 15 rounds vs. the original 8 (plus the one in the chamber) that I carried in the 1911.

Just one old guys take on it......

:)
 
I have had bad luck with Taurus products. I think they have some spectacular design features and offer options other manufacturers don't. For innovation, I give them an "A." For quality control I give them a "C."

I agree with others that it would be best to keep the manual of arms the same. You're likely to get your beans blown off if you grab a gun in the night you are unfamiliar with. Keep it simple and consistent. I, too, have a few closet queens which I cherish, but don't practice with. They are not part of my self-defense plans. If you choose a 1911 configuration, I advise you to practice with only that style and get utterly familiar with it.

If you want the simplest, most practical, nearly foolproof defensive handgun system on today's planet Earth, I humbly recommend a good double-action revolver. If it has to be a .45 ACP, take a good long look at some of S&Ws offerings. Pull the trigger = bang. Or if no bang, pull trigger again = bang, etc. If you are in a shooting situation at home, reloading probably won't be an issue as your assailant or (please forgive my bluntness) you will be dead or incapacitated after two or three shots. This is where a revolver loses nothing to an auto, and offers several features I feel are superior to most autos: Absolute simplicity in all aspects of firing, including dud rounds: Just keep pulling the trigger. Autos are more complex, no matter what us gun-forum theorists say. A revolver is as simple as it gets, except for a throwing knife, baseball bat, big rock, or possible an auto-loading or pump shotgun. Many wise advisers will suggest the shotgun as the best home defense weapon.

Please consider the revolver, if you haven't yet. My wife doesn't care much for guns. I have a safe full of them, but had to think long and hard about what to have her use in an emergency. THe solution was to stash two .357 Mag revolvers in locked boxes in the bedroom. I told her to grab the gun point it at the bad-guy and fire if she felt her life was at stake, etc. No safety levers, no mag releases, no slide stops, no fiddly-doo: Just point and shoot. Of course I have them loaded with .38 +P loads, as those were the ones she shot the best with. Some .357 loadings offer quite the recoil and fireworks show, and the boss didn't like that. I have a S&W .45 ACP wheelgun next to me when I slumber and I dream happily. Yes, it is possible for wheel guns to jam, but it doesn't happen often.

Cheers
 
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