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5-Shot Snub: Enough Gun?

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Just food for thought. The fact that it's hard to find an example of someone reloading during a gunfight means that people probably don't reload often during gunfights. That doesn't necessarily mean that it wouldn't have been useful, just that it didn't happen. Might have not happened because they didn't have the option.

Certainly possible. But, among things that don't seem to happen, CCW holders found dead with an empty gun and a reload on the belt is one of them.

Just for what it is worth, I would not be at all surprised to someday come across an account of a concealed carrier who did indeed need to - and successfully accomplish - a reload during a gunfight in public. But then, there are accounts of people surviving falls from flying aircraft too...
 
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Dang, and @CDW4ME hasn't even shown up yet with a couple of the other guys that think like me (aficionados of doublestack autopistols and proponents of packing spare mags with lotsa rounds onboard).

This thread will likely devolve pretty fast...the last thread went 16 pages and got pretty ugly.
But it was actually fairly entertaining for the most part. I know I tried my best to keep it light but apparently my brand of humor doesn't translate well to forum posts o_O

I will say that we've had at least two home invasions, robberies at ATMs, store robberies, plus a couple carjackings in the area in the past few weeks all with two or more armed assailants in each case. And in one of them, well over five shots fired by the intended victim. And I knew someone who was struck by lightning...
 
If the "task" is nightime walks & pocket carry at home, I'd be good with 5 shots of .38 spl. I do however carry a full size six shot .357 during nightime walks because I don't shoot the small revolvers as well, we've got a lot of bears and I don't mind the weight. When I've got to travel through the streets of the city at 4am to get to the boatyard I carry a semi auto 9mm 10+1 because the predators there usually hunt in packs.
 
Absolutely, if it's what you shoot best and carry all the time.

I can draw and drill five plates will moving @ 13 yards. It's fastest draw to fire platform I've found, for me.

Only you can decide if it works for you.

It isn't as intuitive/ easily accessible as other ccws. Get a 22 lr understudy to build your trigger fingers (yep, train both hands!) And practice point shooting without developing flinched.

It took a lot to get here, now I'm mostly ruined on other platforms. I get to walk by all the fancy new subcompact 20 shooters. And look grimly on my ugly, mostly finishless jframe.

Hey, I've gotten fast on dynamic reloads too. I dump empties and reload with 2 rounds off a speed strip . Back in the fight. I'm on steel @ 40 yards. I guess in a greenwood mall scenario, I might give a good showing if I had to. Not sure what a 110 grain critical defense will still have at that distance, but beats a middle finger I guess.

Here's the secret. These guns pay dividends to those who invest the time and money and pain and patience into figuring them out and dialing them in.

They are not for newbies, not at all. If you have 5 you better make them count.

I've found no other system as rewarding and versatile. I can load up into hardcast plus p. I can load down to wadcutter, and still have a good tool. I can load snake shot. I can load soft lead hp that open and penetrate. I can load soft recoiling expanding loads like critical defense. I can hide this anywhere and draw this faster, I can point shoot or stage the trigger to reach out.

It tolerates the wear and tear of a daily carry item.

I'm confident with 5. I'll put them where they need to go. If I feel like I might need more, I'll simply grab another j frame. Problem solved.
 
I was struck by lightning. A friend of mine was in a DC-8 that crashed in the forest. He lived, the front half of the plane died. We were in a class and the teacher said: As rare as being hit by lightning or being in airliner crash.

We raised our hands and said: YOOHOO, Teacher!

Must we do this again - OP - go read the cited thread and come back with something new or let this one die.
 
Carry a 5 shot loaded with 148 gr hbwc. Best bullet for a 2" imo. I carry.factory 148 hbwc.

You want more info on that, let me know.
 
I was struck by lightning. A friend of mine was in a DC-8 that crashed in the forest. He lived, the front half of the plane died. We were in a class and the teacher said: As rare as being hit by lightning or being in airliner crash.

We raised our hands and said: YOOHOO, Teacher!

Must we do this again - OP - go read the cited thread and come back with something new or let this one die.

I used to participate at a bicycle forum. Helmet use was a hot topic, with the same couple of dozen posters endlessly throwing statistics and anecdotes at each other. Eventually a permanent "megathread" was created just for the topic, and any time someone created a new thread about helmets it would get dumped into the existing one. This kept nearly everyone happy: the cranks got their perpetual motion, and everyone else was able to steer clear.

Of course, THR would need a slightly wider net. Something like "Is a five shot snub adequate for bear defense if I clean it with WD-40" would be my suggestion.
 
This topic often causes tummy upset and dissension among many folks. ;)

As someone who served as a LE firearms instructor, and who had to qualify people who chose to carry 5-shot snubs as both Secondary and off-duty weapons, I look at the question a little differently ... and only having 5rd capacity isn't the biggest consideration.

Simply out, is any particular person who chooses to carry a 5-shot snub revolver 'skilled enough' to run a little DA/DAO revolver hard, controllably and accurately?

Of secondary concern would be the weight of the model chosen. The differences in all-steel models ... or aluminum frames with steel cylinders, yokes and solid barrels ... or aluminum frames with steel cylinders but aluminum yokes and barrel shrouds ... and aluminum frames with aluminum yokes and light titanium cylinders ... can really change the dynamics for some shooters.

Then, there's the ammunition used (and whether it's appropriate for the model selected).

The combination of revolver weight and recoil of the chosen ammunition could have a profound effect on how well (or not) the shooter might be able to run the little snub ,... especially under stress and duress..

The use of 5rd revolvers comes with the inherent limitation of 5 round capacity. Just like the days when the use of 6rd revolvers for duty and self defense use came with the inherent limitation of 6 round capacity. (And 1911's used 7rd magazines.) Better be able to make effective use of what you have available.

When I decided to return to carrying a 5-shot snub on my own time, but wanted something lighter than my older all-steel models, I went with my first Airweight. The introduction of the 642-1 rated for a diet of +P intrigued me. That required not only dusting off my DA revolver skills, but working to improve on those older skills. It took me a little time and at least a couple cases of ammunition to really dial things it, skills-wise.

The next decade saw me adding more 5-shot snubs, and they became a staple in my range sessions, no matter what other issued or personally-owned weapons I ran during the range sessions. After all, the very attributes that make the little (and lightest) 5-shot snubs so attractive and practical as concealment weapons, also makes them harder to shoot for most folks.

I still, more often than not, carry one or another of my J's as retirement weapons.

Now, as to the question of whether having only 5 rounds available before having to reload for any particular situation will be 'enough'?

Well, I've seen my fair share of folks for whom having 15 or 50 rounds available before having to reload may not be 'enough'. It still comes down to whether someone has worked to get their skills sufficiently hard-wired, physically, and their knowledge, judgement and decision-making sufficiently soft-wired, to allow them to effectively function under stress and duress.

It ain't just about ammunition capacity. ;)
 
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I like wadcutters in this 638. Very controllable and I can hit with it. Spicy +P ammo need not apply…and least we don’t have a motor oil thread! Lol wanna talk about fights!
 
I personally wouldn't carry a small 5 round revolver as a solo piece. When I worked in in the speedy part of town a jay frame rode in a Galco pocket holster and a Sig 220 was carried on my strong side hip. E way I saw it was the jay frame was to break contact so I could reach the Sig seeing that my hand was already more than likely in my pocket when dealing with a person that set bells off in my head. Contact distance absolutely enough gun however I'd prefer to keep danger further out and still feel confident in my weapon.

Maybe if I'd have taken the time to find the right round and practiced more with it, I would feel different.
 
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