'58 fever

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Triple Seven is the ONLY sub I will use. Everyone here has heard my rants about Pyrodrek, so I won't bore you any further except to say I have discoverd that it makes excellent fertilizer. Before that, I thought the stuff was useless.
 
Yea, I blazed away with a '58 in each hand when shooting the 777.
I eventually was happy to just get a cylinder emptied after all the snaps and hang-fires with the Pyrodex P.
 
Twenty, cork [fiber gasket] wad, Wonder Wad or grease cookie, .454 pure lead round ball.Remington # 10, or CCI # 11 cap.The cork or fiber wad makes the load lube proof, and stores loaded with no ill effects indefinitely.
 
My .36 Piettas have TRESO's, my stainless .44 has the stock stainless.
''thanks for schooling me btw...''
Por nada, amigo. I just love this stuff.
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I attempted making the grease cookie, and punching them out w/ a .45c brass/nail tool......let's say the first attempt was a flop. Didn't have all the right ingredients.
 
Gatofeo has a good recipie on here somewhere, but I arrived at mine years ago by trial and error. it's all in the bee's wax ratio...more is mo' better.
 
I was impressed with my ho'made bear grease/borebutter felt wads. I shot 6 cylinders w/o cleaning. Could have shot more.

Last question for the night:<11pm here>
Do you prefer felt wads or lube (grease)cookies??
 
Yea, years ago I put a '51 kit together and shot it for a summer. I always looked like I had changed the oil on a truck fleet when I got done shooting.
I finally lost intrest after shooting (losing)the front sight out.
 
I'm disappointed. I thought you were talking about 58 caliber....one of my favorites...TC Big Boar, very old (60s Hy Hunter Zouave--with the "Remington" visible but XXXed out), and my Hawken I made in the late sixties.
I think that the bigger the bore, the more inherently accurate the gun.
 
When useing a reduced load like twenty gr. in a .44, it's a good idea to use a loading tool off the frame, just to control compression, and to avoid haveing an air space in the load...
 
I love the 58cals. So far I have not found any projectiles. All passed through the two deer & one elk. All I have are hunting loads for my 'Toon, Zouave, Buffalo Hunter, & St. Louis Hawken. Tried to upload a photo of a cow elk I shot with the 'Toon but it would not attach.
 
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First deer ever, way back in about '68 was with a Zouave shooting an "illegal" minie (Illinois required round balls then). Forty yards from a treestand, light snow on the ground. A four foot diameter bloody donut (with center hole) sprayed on the snow behind the deer. Dropped at the shot. I scratched around in the snow and leaves but couldn't find the slug. I'd bet it was over an inch in diameter.
Couple of deer later I had one that didn't go through (a round ball this time) and it was undere the hide on the off side, measured about an inch and had stretched the skin out enough for a eight inch diameter pool of blood under the skin.
I used to even shoot in bench rest matches with the zouave by putting a lyman aperture front and redfield rear on homemade bases. Round ball (570 dia), patched with ticking and sixty grains of FFFg. Fifty yard five bull target, often 49 with three or four Xs.
 
Hellgate,
Keep workin' on your elk pics please.
Some day, before I have to take up the rockin' chair.....and the doctors and lawyers own it all....I'm gonna pack up my saddle, rifle, and pony and find an elk hunt somewhere out West.
It'll have to wait for now as Elk season lands during harvest for me.
 
I had a doe wander right up to me once while I was lying on the ground, thinking about resting my eyes. She was a big doe and I had a tag in my pocket...
...From about 25yds I hit her in the center of the brisket, I recovered the .530 ball from under the hide of her hind leg. Nearly shot her through lengthwise.
Then, of course, there's the big buck that I shot 7 times....but that's another story.
 
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