The-Reaver
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Pondering the idea of a 6.8 Upper. Convince me why I should drop 5.56
( would never phase it out completely but you get the idea )
for 6.8 SPC
The purpose would be HD, Hog hunting, Deer Hunting.
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Pondering the idea of a 6.8 Upper. Convince me why I should drop 5.56
( would never phase it out completely but you get the idea )
for 6.8 SPC
The purpose would be HD, Hog hunting, Deer Hunting.
Shadow 7D
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miniature .270 (and you can use the same bullets)
better terminal energy, NOT a long distance accuracy round, rather it's a split, good performance at range with retained energy.
better terminal energy, NOT a long distance accuracy round, rather it's a split, good performance at range with retained energy.
Freedom_fighter_in_IL
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One of the best short action cartridges out there. 200 to 250 yards lethal capabilities (longer with a really good rifle and a really good shooter behind it) along with very little recoil and pretty good terminal ballistics. It's an all around answer for a medium sized big game cartridge. Excellent hog cartridge as well as deer. I just got an AR 10 in 7mm.08 but I am shopping around for a really good AR 15 build in 6.8spc to take out on the more "walking around" hog hunts. It's a hell of a lot better than the .223 for hogs and deer.
Any examples, or are you just being facetious?
It works well and has good support. There are many options, and sometimes 5.56 is actually the best, but the 6.8 is a little powerhouse in the AR15.
Convince me why I should drop 5.56
( would never phase it out completely but you get the idea )
for 6.8 SPC
The purpose would be HD, Hog hunting, Deer Hunting.
rbernie
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I would not drop 5.56NATO for 6.8SPC, but I would (and have) added it to the stable. It will do things better than 5.56NATO (legal and/or ethical medium game hunting inside of 300 yards) and 5.56NATO will do things better than 6.8SPC (affordable practice).
Kachok
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The 6.8SPC makes a heck of a better deer bullet then a 5.56. Terminal perfromance is steped up bigtime. 62gr 5.56mm vs 110gr 6.8mm not even a contest even if the 5.56 could keep up energy wise.
Ramone
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What's the phone company know about rifles?
longdayjake
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Unless you have plenty of money to spend on Ammo then it isn't worth it. Yes it is a little better for hunting, but only if all you use it for is hunting. If you want a gun you will shoot a bunch then 6.8 is not it.
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It's better, obviously.
Just kidding, I'm not sure what the 6.8 will do what the 5.56 can't. Maybe someone could fill in those details for me?
Just kidding, I'm not sure what the 6.8 will do what the 5.56 can't. Maybe someone could fill in those details for me?It's better, obviously.
Some gun rag clippings
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0Bx5...dS1MaThPV3VXQQ
Factory ammo from a 16" barrel:
110 Gr Accubond at 2630 fps
95 gr TTSX at 2750
85 TSX at 2920
Comparing Hornady's 110 gr VMax to their 55 gr .223 VMax, the 6.8 has more energy at 100 yards (1313 ft/lbs) when fired from a 16" barrel than .223 has at the muzzle of a 24" barrel (1282 ft/lbs).
For the OP, the stated needs of HD, you should be fine with 5.56. For hunting, a 6.8 brings extra energy in the same platform while maintaining good accuracy and light recoil.
420Stainless
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Makes bigger holes. A breeze to reload and the brass seems to last awhile. Easy on the shoulder (not as easy as 5.56, but still easy). Lots of barrel options available these days.
Plus hornady came out with there 120 grain sst bullet for it, and i believe silver state armory is coming out with a 6.8 spicific 140 grain long range bullet. Its got tons of fallow8ng and is just going to get better. It'll never be a mainstream military round, but it sure does anchore animals! it also make for a good accurate rifle. i regularly shoot sub 1/2" groups with 90 grainers and my 110 pro hunter loads hit same point of impact at 100 yards.
NWCP
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I purchased a Stag Arms 6.8 SPC upper for my RRA LAR15 national match lower. I now have the ability of using my RRA for medium game and large varmint hunting with a scoped 6.8 and within minutes converting it back to my 5.56 RRA with an EOTech halo for self defense/home defense.Two guns from one base model. They both work great and fit like like a glove. The 6.8 SPC gives me a better bullet selection for coyote, deer and hog.
RCArms.com
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I am less than impressed with the 6.8 SPC for hunting purposes. I've used it several years ago and had spectacular failures with it at fairly close range. Granted, I was using the initial Remington ammunition released which was pretty anemic compared to today's offerings. I simply have no confidence in the round to produce a clean killing shot, even when bullet placement is directly in the vitals.
Seeing a deer soak up two chest vitals hits inside of 30 years and then get up and walk away like nothing happened was a new experience for me. I am accustomed to hitting a deer in the chest with a .30-06 or .303 British and having it crumple where it stood. The 6.8 SPC lacks the "wallop" that the .30-06 delivers.
Don
Seeing a deer soak up two chest vitals hits inside of 30 years and then get up and walk away like nothing happened was a new experience for me. I am accustomed to hitting a deer in the chest with a .30-06 or .303 British and having it crumple where it stood. The 6.8 SPC lacks the "wallop" that the .30-06 delivers.
Don
MikeRussell
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RCarms, do you remember what bullet you were using in the rem loads? Were the the open tip match bullets? That might have had a lot to do with the bullets passing right through and not getting the whallop. Just curious cause ive seen a lot of damage and destruction on deer out to 300 yards.
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It's a .270 Short/Compact/Whatever. Load it with good bullets and hit well with it, anything's going down.
mohunter55
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i love mine. You should check out 68forums.com. I bought mine bc I wanted to deer hunt with an ar15 and did not want the weight of a 308. Also, 6.8 performs very well out of a 16 inch barrel or shorter and there really isnt a lot of reason to go longer than that.
The 68forums convinced me about 1 year ago, because I was never been a fan of the 5.56. other than for cheap plinking. I reload, so rounds are fairly cheap for me.
6.8 is good for short barrel. My stag 6.8 has taken every animal that my 308 has.
You don't need no 30.06 for deer. I've taken one with .40 S&W.
6.8 is good for short barrel. My stag 6.8 has taken every animal that my 308 has.
You don't need no 30.06 for deer. I've taken one with .40 S&W.
Kachok
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Absolutly nothing, same can be said vice versa too. In an ideal world I give a slight edge to the 6.8, but with ammo prices like they are I would rather have a 7.62x39
RCArms.com
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I don't recall the bullet weight. They were the standard Remington Cor-Loc exposed lead tip hunting projectiles.
Deer 1 took a Through chest hit at 30 yards and dropped like a stone. Large red cloud of exit spray. It got back up and took another chest hit and walked away like nothing had happened.
Deer 2 took a low neck hit and a second round that lopped off it's right front leg at about 65 yards. It took a third chest hit as it waked by my stand at maybe 50 yards and despite massive trauma and blood loss, it made it 800 yards through the woods and across a clearing before my neighbors got it.
I am of the opinion that the bullet was the culprit here. I don't think that they were driven to a high enough velocity to open as they passed through the tissue and exited cleanly with minimal tissue damage and transfer of energy.
Plenty of people hunt successfully with the 6.8 SPC and I'm sure that the ammunition is better today, but I don't think I would choose to hunt with one again when I have other rifles that are capable of reliable one-shot kills when the shot is placed into the vitals.
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