MrTuffPaws
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Just took my M59 SKS to the range today. I am going to be going trough a lot of 7.62x39 here in the future. So, does the 7.62x39 have a name other than 7.62x39?
7.62x39: Does it have a name?
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pullskinner
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Ummm ...... .310 PPC?
WayneConrad
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M43
P95Carry
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''Mr Nasty''? 
Seriously - I think 7.62 Soviet is probably understood by most.
Seriously - I think 7.62 Soviet is probably understood by most.
P95Carry
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Matt - to be honest I do not know what is ''correct''. Much with ammo is vernacular - stuff most folks seem to accept. I only think of 7.62x39 as ''Soviet'' because it is current - by comparison 7.62x54R is (for me) old/obsolete - milsurp etc.
Certainly anyone referring to ''AK ammo" will probably be understood. Also maybe 7.62 Soviet (short) is more descriptive. I am not sure right now if there is a definitive and universally accepted name.
Certainly anyone referring to ''AK ammo" will probably be understood. Also maybe 7.62 Soviet (short) is more descriptive. I am not sure right now if there is a definitive and universally accepted name.
The_Antibubba
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The Democratic Designation
Also known as "That cop-killing bullet from the evil assault weapon that nobody needs for hunting!!!"
Somewhere. Not here, though.
Also known as "That cop-killing bullet from the evil assault weapon that nobody needs for hunting!!!"
Somewhere. Not here, though.
Commissar Gribb
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the "R" in 7.62x54R stands for "russian"
7.62x54R was in use long before the bolsheviks came to power in russia.
Silent-Snail
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I thought the R stood for rimmed.
black bear
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Five years ago when I bought the Ruger Mini 30, everybody was calling it the .30 Russian.
The Ruger receiver is stamped Mini .30
black bear
The Ruger receiver is stamped Mini .30
black bear
SDC
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Ditto; the "R" stands for rimmed. Since the 7.62x54R round was adopted when the Tsar was in power, the other common name for it is "7.62 Russian"; since the 7.62x39mm round was adopted when the Communists were in power, another common acronym for it is "7.62 Soviet".
Ash
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"7.62x39 M43" is the official name for that round as it was created, the designation because the Soviets had converted to the metric system.
The original designation for 7.62x54R was
"m1891 3 Line" as the Russians were using the Imperial system (that included Arshins, equivalent to a man's pace, and lines, which was 1/10 inch. So, 3 line means 30 caliber).
m1891 L refers to the round introduced in 1908.
Most of this information comes from http://www.mosinnagant.net and http://www.7.62x54r.net
Ash
The original designation for 7.62x54R was
"m1891 3 Line" as the Russians were using the Imperial system (that included Arshins, equivalent to a man's pace, and lines, which was 1/10 inch. So, 3 line means 30 caliber).
m1891 L refers to the round introduced in 1908.
Most of this information comes from http://www.mosinnagant.net and http://www.7.62x54r.net
Ash
armoredman
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7.62x54R is still in military production today - longest serving military cartridge, bar none. 30-06 is militarily obsolete, like .45 ACP is also militarily obsolete, ie, neither being issued.
geekWithA.45
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Whenever I refer to it as "7.62 commie", everyone knows what I'm talking about.
Hawk
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30 caliber Russian Short
Compliments of Jeff Cooper.
Works for me.
Compliments of Jeff Cooper.
Works for me.
.45 ACP not being issued? Man, I guess some of those those Marine SOC fellas got the wrong gun then. Maybe you want to tell them they aren't issuing .45ACP anymore, but I think I'll let them be happy.
And before you go off on how it's limited issue, my only response is: Issue is issue. If they're getting the ammo from Uncle Sam, then it's issued.
Oh.. ::clears throat:: and back to the topic of the thread: 7.62x39 M43 is the official nomeclature the Soviets gave the round. Go to any gunshow or gunshop and your best bet will be: 7.62x39. You'll get the correct stuff every time (unless the salesperson is an idiot, in which case find another gunshop as that person shouldn't be there to begin with).
HTH
And before you go off on how it's limited issue, my only response is: Issue is issue. If they're getting the ammo from Uncle Sam, then it's issued.
Oh.. ::clears throat:: and back to the topic of the thread: 7.62x39 M43 is the official nomeclature the Soviets gave the round. Go to any gunshow or gunshop and your best bet will be: 7.62x39. You'll get the correct stuff every time (unless the salesperson is an idiot, in which case find another gunshop as that person shouldn't be there to begin with).
HTH
Commissar Gribb
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not to be confused in 7.62 x 25mm
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