80% gun ?

[Arizona_Mike]

Treading on thin ice ........never good.

Who is treading on this ice? The law is clear.

Mike

 

[Sav .250]

Who is treading on this ice? The law is clear.

Mike

I`m not trying to start an argument. Just A comment.

 

[JeffG]

My thought is that if I had a home-built, I would have a very sincere serial number on it. There wouldn't be a sales or permit record of it anywhere, but a conventional looking number and maybe even a brand name could defuse a lot of tension if you came to official notice.

Barring that, some factual paperwork outlining the regulations might help. I always keep a photocopy of transfers with my Class 3 stuff when I'm out and about.

 

[Jim Watson]

I don't see any reason to "bar that" (Conventional looking marking of a DIY.)
I understand the law to be as MachIV says, but I would not care to try to explain the minutae of Federal law to a cop on a traffic stop or Man With A Gun call. Just let him look at my ex-80% 1911 or AR, see "Acme Amalgamated Products No. 271828" and go ahead with his field interview.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

I`m not trying to start an argument. Just A comment.

I have no idea which poster you were referring to so I'm no where near an argument myself

Mike

 

[mstreddy]

Who is treading on this ice? The law is clear.

Mike

Mike, I think the treading thin ice comment was directed at the OP's post on FA, sears, etc... on a home built.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

Mike, I think the treading thin ice comment was directed at the OP's post on FA, sears, etc... on a home built.

Now I'm really confused! Bullseye did not mention either of those things in his two posts.

Mike

 

[bullseye308]

Nope, wasn't me.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

Nope, wasn't me.

It was DustyGmt. If he as asking about an RDIAS I'm pretty sure you could.

Mike

 

[mstreddy]

Mike, Bullseye308, my apologies.
It was DustyGMT that asked about

Could you manufacture a lower with an auto sear and fire FA?

And, yes agreed, if it's a registered sear, then it could be added to any lower - as the Registered DIAS is the machine gun.
but, if it's NOT registered, then no FA out of any home built.

 

[CapnMac]

was not registered by 1986 it is not, and can not ever be, legal for personal ownership.

Unless the day comes that Hughes is tossed out.
However, for the forseeable future, entirely accurate, grandstanding State laws notwithstanding.

 

[Elkins45]

Ya I didn't think it likely. I just didn't know to what extent if to any extent these home built rifles were reg'd.

Homebuilt guns have to follow exactly the same rules as factory built ones, except for the requirement for a serial number. If they didn't, we'd all be building machine guns. And silencers. And bazookas.

 

[bullseye308]

Ms, no problem. What got this started was a talk about some of us getting some 80% Glock lowers, maybe an AR lower, and some have built AK's from flats. I haven't heard of anyone having a run in with a LEO while carrying one or having one on them and wondered what everyone thought the encounter would be like. This assumes everything is legal and a mostly uninformed LEO.

 

[Elkins45]

I suspect a little prevention would go a long way. I keep copies of all my NFA stamps in my car so I can prove their legality if needed.

Yes, I know that only an ATF agent has the legal authority to ask to see them, but I'm not willing to spend the weekend in jail to stand on principle.