870 Police Home Defense

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Panzerschwein

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Got my new 870 Police. Was a wood stocked gun. Didn't fancy the wood so swapped it for a plastic 870P stock. Added a USGI silent sling and a Fire Force shell holder for the butt:

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Really slick setup now. Very reliable. I use Winchester Super-X 16 pellet 2 3/4" #1 buckshot as my home defense load. It has a 4+1 capacity (I keep it cruiser ready, empty chamber unlocked safety off) but I think that's fine for defense work and I appreciate the excellence balance of the standard capacity magazine. I have an extra 6 round on board if I need it. I use dummy shells to practice reloading from the butt shell holder, fun and I am pretty fast at it. I don't use a light since my light switches are close at hand. I keep a Makarov for bedside defense but plan to buy a CZ P-09 9mm soon and add a light to it for bedside duty.

Love this shotgun, love this website, you guys are cool and I like you.

Thanks! :D
 
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Cooldill said:
I don't use a light since my light switches are close at hand
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And if you hear a crash at the other end of the house, then grab the shotgun, then flick the lightswitch......and then you realize there was a power outage while you were sleeping ? Watcha gonna do then, huh? Watcha gonna do then ????? :D
 
Well if that happens, then I'll just start a blastin. :D

KIDDING!!!

I have a German made work flashlight close at hand. I'll grab that and see what the hades is going on at the other end of my apartment!! :D
 
Nice!

So.....whatcha gonna do with that wood furniture you took off there? I might be interested in going in the other direction with mine. ;)
 
DanMar757 said:
So.....whatcha gonna do with that wood furniture you took off there? I might be interested in going in the other direction with mine. ;)
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I already sold it for a good profit on ebay. I made about $40 even after buying the new synthetic stock for it. :)
 
jaysouth said:
None better for what you need a shot gun for. You will not wear it out.

Get a long barrel and shoot some skeet to learn the gun.
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Excellent idea, I plan to get a longer barrel with interchangeable chokes for that and to also hunt birds like turkey and dove.
 
That's pretty much exactly how I'm set up (only with a slip on five shot butt cuff and the original synthetic furniture).

Now all that's needed is enough inexpensive 00 buck rounds for practice ( I prefer 2 3/4 rounds with 9 pellets per round). You want to be comfortable enough to operate your popper in any circumstances - paying close attention to actual distance (stay under 15 meters). Make a point as well of patterning it first so you know the exact spread per meter from the muzzle with the ammo you'll be relying on.... I'd expect one inch spread per meter from the muzzle with ordinary buck -that's only seven inches at 7 meters, fifteen inches at 15 meters, etc. (flite control rounds will have a much tighter pattern - and you'll want to know exactly what it is if that's your round of choice).
 
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You have a good weapon, there, CD. Nice configuration.


DanMar757

...I might be interested in going in the other direction with mine.
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Shoot me a P.M. if you'd like photos of short-barreled 870s with wood furniture. You know, for encouragement... :p


:)
 
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Cooldill

Nice set-up with your new 870. Pretty much the same way I had my 870 equipped though I preferred the factory wood stock and forend. Had a mag tube extension for it but didn't care for the extra weight out front.
 
Thanks I might go with that Surefire mount that goes under the magazine camp, though I heard it's flimsy.
 
Cooldill said:
Thanks I might go with that Surefire mount that goes under the magazine camp, though I heard it's flimsy.
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Which is why i went with the other option. Choate is hjgh quality and funtional but none too pretty.

My rem1100 has prettier hardware making it a social shotgun but that hardware is no more functional than choate.
 
A home defense shotgun is not the wonderful solution that a lot of people think it is. The light issue is one. It is hard to hold a flashlight in one hand and fire a shotgun with the other. For starters. If you have the light mounted on the shotgun, common sense says that the gun would be mounted and pointing where you want the light to point - also a questionable objective. Are you going to fire the gun from the hip - one handed maybe? Ever tried firing from the hip, especially with higher power loads? Are you going to identify the threat, then mount the gun? At short distances, a 12 gauge shotgun pattern is barely larger than the barrel, i.e. 3/4 of an inch in diameter. So accuracy counts, you won't be spraying the massive shot pattern that you might expect. Then you have a long barrel (even when shortened) that tends to bump into walls, doors and furniture. I'm not saying it is a bad choice, but a lot of people don't run the numbers on what a home defense scenario might be like. Dark, unseen obstacles, difficulty seeing the threat and firing at it at the same time. Not so easy.

WM
 
I seriously have no idea where you came up with the idea he would fired shotgun with a stock from the hip or why he would fire one handed.Do you use a rifle for your home defense set up? Do you shoot one handed or from the hip with it? Most knowledgeable people do not pick a shotgun for home defense because of the pattern , we do so since there are multiple projectiles coming out of that barrel and doing significant damage that is much more likely to stop a threat than any handgun and even rifles, its track record with buckshot ammunition is too confirmed to deny its place as a great home defense weapon period. What sort of unforeseen obstacles are in your home? Is your home always dark all the time that you cant remember the basic layout of your own house? I aint saying that home defense is easy but ya dont need to be a rocket scientist either to know what you gotta do either.
 
Cooldill:

Nice shotgun but I hope you saved the wood.

I know wood is not impervious to the weather, but I am an old fart and I prefer the wood for the feel. I had an 870 12 ga 26" IC that I used for skeet decades ago. Bought a 28" FC VR barrel for it that I cut down to 18-1/2", remounted the sights, and added a Choate 7-shot mag extension for home defense. At one time I did have a Choate black plastic buttstock (with pistol grip) and fore-end for it but preferred the wood again. It is fairly easy to modify the wood insofar as drop at the heel so as to see the entire top barrel surface for a better acquisition of the of the front sight, and a center bead if you have one.

Not only that, but a wood stocked shotgun looks like a hunting gun to any that would like to ban many firearms.

Just to reinforce that, just take a look here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqJ_4YhYMhE
 
Nope, I sold the walnut and made a chunk of cash on it. Used it to buy the synthetic stock abd still came out well ahead. I greatly prefer synthetic as I'm a clutz and would no doubt have marred up the wood stock in short order!! :D
 
Cooldill

Guess I'm just old school but I would have gone with the wood stock over the synthetic. Wasn't an option with the Maverick 88 I bought and in all probability would have raised the price of it substantially.
 
bannockburn said:
Cooldill

Guess I'm just old school but I would have gone with the wood stock over the synthetic. Wasn't an option with the Maverick 88 I bought and in all probability would have raised the price of it substantially.
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I just didn't like it. Made it look to much like a duck gun or something, outdated. I don't think and police departments use wood stocked 870s anymore either, and I was going for a basic modern "police gun" look as well. :)
 
Looking good. Will serve you well. A potential other option for a light would be to get one of those on a headband. Doesnt cost much and still leaves you hands free. Does require a few extra seconds. Folks will complain it's on your head and folks will shoot at it, you. Per Louis Awerbucm, it's a gunfight they are already shooting at you.
 
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