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it is wonderfull IF you are taking about 8mm mauser JS it very close to the 30-06 with .323 cal bullets. It is VERY VERY good.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.92x57mm_Mauser
I would say its a great round, comparable to the 30-06.
I would say its a great round, comparable to the 30-06.
courtgreene
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hopefully i can let you know how it works on deer after/during this season. time being the critical factor.
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Should work well on deer, I know it slices threw steel plate and cinder blocks pretty well. I can't imagin a deer being to much of a challange for it.
Uncle Mike
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The 8mm Mauser is, in itself, an excellent round! Many a deer have given their life to it!
After the second world war, there were literally boat loads of 8mm caliber Mausers floating around in the U.S., and many folks bought them for hunting guns.
The round itself gives up only a small percentage to the 30-06 as loaded in its 'military' loading, but lacks comparably to the 30-06 in its modern 'factory loaded' form....many say due to liability reasons, ammo manufacturers 'down load' the round so to keep from over stressing the older 8mm Mausers(Turks ect..) if used in these older rifles, which are still used by some today!
It's not a bad round at all!
After the second world war, there were literally boat loads of 8mm caliber Mausers floating around in the U.S., and many folks bought them for hunting guns.
The round itself gives up only a small percentage to the 30-06 as loaded in its 'military' loading, but lacks comparably to the 30-06 in its modern 'factory loaded' form....many say due to liability reasons, ammo manufacturers 'down load' the round so to keep from over stressing the older 8mm Mausers(Turks ect..) if used in these older rifles, which are still used by some today!
It's not a bad round at all!
Hand load it for your rifle and you can take anything short of the biggest moose, bear, and bison in North America.
schnarrgj
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Having used the 8x57 on deer for years, it works VERY,VERY well. If you do not handload, get the SB, PriviPart or wolf gold for full power loads. The US ammo is underloaded because they are afraid that someone will shoot it in an old .318 bore, M88 mauser.
Honestly that Privi Partizan 196gr sp stuff is hot and accurate. I'd put that up against an elk any day. There have been several commercial rifles made in this caliber (FN, Mauser, Remington, Winchester) that should eclipse the accuracy of the WW2 era 'bring backs' that most of us are used to shooting.
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I've been loading 150 gr soft point bullets to 30-30 pressures. It's really accurate in a standard M48 out to 150 yards and would be great for deer.
If I planned to shoot out past that I'd load it up to it's potential and use 170 or 180 grain bullets.
I love the 8mm. It's a great round.
If I planned to shoot out past that I'd load it up to it's potential and use 170 or 180 grain bullets.
I love the 8mm. It's a great round.
On the guns and ammo website, there is a very good article concerning the cartridge, and its modern uses. It also lists all sorts of bullets, and some example loads. I myself love the cartridge. I used an old mauser, added an aftermarket stock, trigger, scout style scope mount, and a LE scope, and I have one hell of a tackdriver. I beleive it can do anything the 30-06 will, and the 2 deer filling my frezzer just might agree.
caribou
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The 8mm Mauser preceeded the 30-06.
It was the first modern rimless smokless rifle cartridge that was adopted by a major power, Germany.
The original M88 configuration shot a round nosed bullet. Germany adopted a new version of the M88 cartridge in 1905 as the 7.92x57mm IS ( 'Infanterie, Spitz' or 'Infantry, Pointed'). The Infantry designation was to differentiate the light bullet from the heavy bullet, used in Maxim Machine guns of the time. Back then, Machineguns were used in support,shooting over troops beating zones in front of advancing infantry, and performing alot of artillery like missions.The heavier bullets flew further in these applications.
Its 1905 improvement with a 'Spitzer' bullet ( pointed, no longer rounded) was also copied, in its relative form first as the ".30-'03" which was adopted to replace the .30-40Krag cartrige and rifles with the Springfeild M1903.(The rifle was actually adopted 1905)
In 1906, the German 8MM Spitzer demonstrated enough of an upgrade for the U.S. to adopt a design of our own, the ".30-'06" Springfeild round
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Hence, the 8MM Mauser is the grandaddy of all sorts of modern rimless cartridges; .30-03, .30-'06, .243W, .270W, 7.62X51Nato and its civilian twin ,.308W, as well as .22-250, ect. ect.
They all have the same case head mesurement, and can interchange bolt heads without modifycations, and thats why Mausers were, and still are popular to rebarrel in popular calibers.
Case Lengths are the biggest differences.
And to think the Russians up graded the .7.62X54r from round nosed to Spitz in '06 and its STILL in combat, Today
It was the first modern rimless smokless rifle cartridge that was adopted by a major power, Germany.
The original M88 configuration shot a round nosed bullet. Germany adopted a new version of the M88 cartridge in 1905 as the 7.92x57mm IS ( 'Infanterie, Spitz' or 'Infantry, Pointed'). The Infantry designation was to differentiate the light bullet from the heavy bullet, used in Maxim Machine guns of the time. Back then, Machineguns were used in support,shooting over troops beating zones in front of advancing infantry, and performing alot of artillery like missions.The heavier bullets flew further in these applications.
Its 1905 improvement with a 'Spitzer' bullet ( pointed, no longer rounded) was also copied, in its relative form first as the ".30-'03" which was adopted to replace the .30-40Krag cartrige and rifles with the Springfeild M1903.(The rifle was actually adopted 1905)
In 1906, the German 8MM Spitzer demonstrated enough of an upgrade for the U.S. to adopt a design of our own, the ".30-'06" Springfeild round
.Hence, the 8MM Mauser is the grandaddy of all sorts of modern rimless cartridges; .30-03, .30-'06, .243W, .270W, 7.62X51Nato and its civilian twin ,.308W, as well as .22-250, ect. ect.
They all have the same case head mesurement, and can interchange bolt heads without modifycations, and thats why Mausers were, and still are popular to rebarrel in popular calibers.
Case Lengths are the biggest differences.
And to think the Russians up graded the .7.62X54r from round nosed to Spitz in '06 and its STILL in combat, Today
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