9mm Carbine for defense?

[Warp]

Well good for you, I hope you never need to either. I haven't any reservations in entertaining the thought that a 9mm carbine would still be superior in target transition in low light and a confined space after firing on the first target, with my ears being no worse the wear and hopefully better than if I fired an AR.

That's all fine and dandy. Except for the "no worse the wear" part. It's still an unmuffled gunshot right by your head in a small enclosed space with no hearing protection.

Really, the issue was claiming eardrum rupture if you went with an intermediate rifle cartridge instead.

 

[AKElroy]

My point is that hearing is not a consideration for me, only the effectiveness of the tool. If a .223 is superior for HD, then that's the choice. Both are going to be damn loud in my bedroom, I might as well go with the best tool for the job.

 

[Panzerschwein]

I humbly respect your opinion. However, for me, 9mm is the way to go. It is superior to any .223 or 5.56mm carbine for what I'm looking for. Because what I'm looking for is not a 100% dedicated home defense tool, it is a rifle that is both economic but will serve very well in many different defensive scenarios. Will it be better than your AR-15? Probably not, especially according to you, but it works. For me.

 

[Warp]

I humbly respect your opinion. However, for me, 9mm is the way to go. It is superior to any .223 or 5.56mm carbine for what I'm looking for. Because what I'm looking for is not a 100% dedicated home defense tool, it is a rifle that is both economic but will serve very well in many different defensive scenarios. Will it be better than your AR-15? Probably not, especially according to you, but it works. For me.

Tell us more.

In what other defensive scenarios is the 9mm superior, and how/why?

Also, which specific firearm are you referring to?

 

[AKElroy]

I humbly respect your opinion. However, for me, 9mm is the way to go. It is superior to any .223 or 5.56mm carbine for what I'm looking for. Because what I'm looking for is not a 100% dedicated home defense tool, it is a rifle that is both economic but will serve very well in many different defensive scenarios. Will it be better than your AR-15? Probably not, especially according to you, but it works. For me.

I don't own an AR15, I was just making a point that hearing is not my primary, or even my last, consideration for HD. I have a 9mm P226 on the nightstand, and a .30-30 trapper in the corner.

 

[Oxidation]

I would have no issue protecting my family with a 9mm carbine. Would have to have a nice Eotech or Akog on it for good night time target acquisition.

 

[JShirley]

At close range, an Aimpoint would be a much better choice than an ACOG.

 

[Panzerschwein]

Tell us more.

In what other defensive scenarios is the 9mm superior, and how/why?

Also, which specific firearm are you referring to?

If you reread my post you will find the answer to your question. I am referring to the Beretta CX4 Storm, and I did not claim 9mm to be superior to anything in a defensive scenario. I said it works for me for home defense because I plan on using it mostly as a fun gun that is more affordable to shoot than an AR but with proper ammunition should do fine for defensive use.

AKELroy, a .30-30 lever gun whould be great for home defense provided you don't live where possible over penetration would be a problem. I can see using a lighter nice expanding hunting bullet.

 

[JShirley]

One of the expanding bullets suitable for .30 Carbine would probably be a good choice to load in the .30-30. The .30-30 Silvertip HP has 17.7" of gelatin penetration. (Interesting to note on the same page that .30-06 150 grain SP has 3cm less penetration-IOW, exactly the penetration many experts suggest as ideal.)
John

 

[kgpcr]

There are a lot better choices out there!

 

[Bohemus]

9mm or any other pistol caliber carbine has one enormous PRO - with linear compensator (or anything that directs muzzle flash forwards) its possible to use it without ear protection for some time. Its better than 9mm pistol. With .223 you are deaf instantly.
With American 16" barrel rule, 9mm is as silent as .22lr.

 

[JShirley]

You haven't read...well, really any of the other posts.

With .223 you are deaf instantly.

No, you're not. We would have many thousands of young, deaf vets if that was true.