9mm data using Titegroup powder

[bts_pei]

Hi,
I have always used plated or jacketed bullets but I am about to reload using lead cast for the first time in 125 and 147 grain for 9mm.
I plan to use Titegroup powder as I have a large quantity of it. I have checked a few websites and can't find any data for 147gr lead using Titegroup and only one spot with data for 125gr.
I would appreciate an experienced opinion on this matter.

Thanks,
Troy

 

[Sunray]

Hodgdon's site has 125 grain data. An "LCN" is a cast bullet. They may have 147 grain Titegroup data in their manual.

 

[nitesite]

You might try asking Berry's and X-Treme and other plated bullet makers for load data.

Just remember that TG is a very fast powder and it would be wise to stay below MAX loads. It can be a very good Minor PF powder in 9mm, but don't try to run Major PF with it.

Also, it is double based with a pretty high nitroglycerine content and can cause some leading, especially if your lead bullets aren't sized to fit your bore tightly. Single based powders are more lead friendly.

 

[nitesite]

I'll add the following for 147-gr cast lead with a #356637 bullet, taken from the #48 Lyman manual:

Titegroup
MIN = 2.5-gr
MAX = 2.8-gr
OAL = 1.058"
Primer = CCI 500

Be careful! There's only .3 grains of powder between MIN and MAX and this data was derived using a Universal Receiver and not a pistol with a receiver that is not fully supported.

 

[evan price]

Warning these loads are not book loads and you could put your eye out! Work up from ten percent below book max, etc. all the usual safety stuff.


I am loading 125-lead RN's with Titegroup.

I loaded light loads with 4.0 grains and it shoots well in pistols but will not 100% cycle the bolt reliably in my carbine. It also left sooty brass that to me indicated a light charge. This is the max load for lead according to hodgdon.

I now load 4.4 grains which is the max for jacketed bullets, using a hard-cast (18 BHN or harder, 21 BHN when I can get them) bullet that is slightly oversize (3.565) and have no problems with leading or pressure. The brass is no longer sooty.

I also load a 124 gr plated Rainier HP with 4.7 grains in nickle +P brass for a +P load to simulate Speer Gold Dot 124 +P for training and it does great.

 

[stubbicatt]

There are other, more suitable, powders. WSF is a good choice for this cartridge.

 

[bts_pei]

I realize there are better powders, WSF or perhaps 231 but I live in Canada where availability is sometimes hard. Thank-you to all who replied, its much appreciated.