StrykerByte.45
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The term is "grooved" trigger. I knew that but forgot. I just started calling it beveled and it stuck. The other one is "smooth"
A different way to hold an auto pistol
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StrykerByte.45
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So on the smooth the pad lays at a 90° angle. On the grooved the pad lays on the grooves on just the side at a approximate 45° angle. You can lay it across but the trigger will dig in the finger pad and eventually cause discomfort. But, everyone is different. However, like I stated, using the groove will angle the trigger finger efficiently and keep the palm pressed firmly on the grip preventing low left shooting.
I believe that on Glocks with the smooth shoe, that is not an issue due to the size or they just come with different shoes placed randomly from the factory. Could it be random?
I believe that on Glocks with the smooth shoe, that is not an issue due to the size or they just come with different shoes placed randomly from the factory. Could it be random?
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I have guns with both types of trigger and shoot them all the same way. Never really paid any attention to them, and never had an issue shooting with them.
That clarification clears up a lot of what you've posted previously.
As I recall, the grooved trigger was done on some of the imported Glocks to make sure they would meet the points threshold under the '68 GCA import points rules. The grooving makes the trigger a "target trigger" per the rules and that means more points.
snowman357
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If a catastrophic failure occurs most of the time the extra energy vents down the mag well.
someguy2800
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For another option, here's Ben Stoeger.
Trigger Technique with a Glock (Ben Stoeger)
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That is the technique I use with my LC9S, Max 9 and Kahr which have long pulls with no wall in the trigger pull. I have very large hands so using the crease of my knuckle gives the best results for me with those pistols but I use the pad of my finger pressing straight back for larger pistols. On a glock I stage against the wall and break straight back with no bending in my first knuckle joint.
yeh, just like the bump on the side of the grip is a thumb rest and gets points too. (aka target pistol)
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StrykerByte.45
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I've been telling people not to change their mag release and your magazines to metal ones because that will prevent the blowout from going down the magwell and make it go elsewhere. It's a theory, but it's a pretty good one.
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yes, exactly
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Bulletski
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Yes, pretty much so.
I was taught thumb over thumb grip for pistols at an academy and years later at another I was taught everybody was now doing thumbs forward. I did not argue with the new method but struggled to shoot with it. Trying to make my brain tell my thumbs to do this new thing instead of what they'd done automatically for 6 years straight on the range during a fast draw stroke and string of fire was slowing me down and messing me up. My instructors acknowledged this and rather than bother me about it they let me go with what I was conditioned to do to make it through and pass. Then I later got myself used to thumbs forward on my own time.
It's not that I shot day and night better, it's that the mechanics of the grip made it easier for me to shoot well. My wrists naturally lock more tightly for more stable follow up shots with thumbs forward.
I'm glad I made myself learn how to do it but I had to work on it on my own and not be pushed into it. Everybody has a brain and should have an open mind. Look at everything. Take the parts that make you better. Trash the stuff that doesn't work for you. You don't have to do something just because you're told it's now 'the way' but don't reject it until you're sure it won't work for you.
It's not that I shot day and night better, it's that the mechanics of the grip made it easier for me to shoot well. My wrists naturally lock more tightly for more stable follow up shots with thumbs forward.
I'm glad I made myself learn how to do it but I had to work on it on my own and not be pushed into it. Everybody has a brain and should have an open mind. Look at everything. Take the parts that make you better. Trash the stuff that doesn't work for you. You don't have to do something just because you're told it's now 'the way' but don't reject it until you're sure it won't work for you.
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tws3b2
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To each his own. Whatever works best for you. I tried shooting my revolver one handed. To my surprise, I'm better with one hand.
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I'll just add (sadly, from personal experience with a BHP) that an overpressure round will have no trouble blowing out a steel magazine with a steel magazine catch. Not sure if that translates into plastic-framed pistols avoiding damage, however.
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The cup and saucer method may work for firing one shot, but is terrible if you want to shoot fast and accurately. Just take a look at a few world champion competition shooters and how they grip the gun.
I can tell you (also from personal experience 10mm 1911) that even if your metal mag catch and steel mag hold the body in the gun, it can shoot the base, spring follower and remaining rounds out the bottom.
JR24
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I know some people have strong opinions on them. I’ve had models with both grooved and flat and honestly can’t tell the difference when I’m shooting.
Off hand I couldn’t tell you which trigger the 3 Glocks I still have are equipped with.
As for grip, I started gripping my Glocks like Bob Vogel does, no matter the trigger, and it really improved my Glock shooting.
Bob Vogel on Grip
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