A few C&R questions

[jzimm9mm]

I just received my C&R license a couple days ago and I have a few newbie questions for the old pros...

1) When making copies of the original (unsigned) license, what needs to be copied? Just the top half of the front side (the part that looks like a license), or the whole thing front and back?

2) If I want to purchase a C&R firearm at a gunshow, can I bring a copy of my C&R FFL and avoid all the paperwork? Do I need to get a copy of the seller's FFL, assuming they are a collector or dealer?

3) In regards to discounts from companies like Midway and Brownells, do you have to call to place an order and mention that you sent your C&R FFL, or do they connect it to your online account somehow so you can still place web orders and get the discount?

That's all for now. I'm dying to make a couple purchases. I've been watching the K-31s go up in price and down in availability since I submitted my forms many weeks ago.

Thanks in advance.

Jer..

 

[Bruce333]

1. Just the top front needs to be copied

2. Yes to taking your C&R FFL. All you need from the seller is name and address, or name and FFL#. You don't need a copy of their FFL.

3. I included my online account info when I sent my C&R copy to Midway, and they changed my account for me.

Brownell's has a section online that you complete to get the dealer prices (still need to send them a copy of your C&R).

 

[Chipperman]

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Although, if the seller offers me a copy of his FFL, I take it.

 

[LiquidTension]

When you make copies of your license, make a few that are enlarged. Make the half sized license take up a whole sheet of paper. Some companies insist on this if you fax them a copy - I think it was AIM that made me do it. Faxes are poor in quality, so they want it bigger in order to see everything.

 

[smince]

2) If I want to purchase a C&R firearm at a gunshow, can I bring a copy of my C&R FFL and avoid all the paperwork?

Occasionally you will run into a dealer who won't accept your C&R, and not just at gunshows either. Just fill out the regular form, or go elsewhere.

 

[Mike1951]

I was curious about the length of time for your C&R to be issued.

The FAQ's at www.surplusrifles.com (dated 2005) said the BATFE has 60 days to process an application.

I inquired at the 60 day mark and was told it takes up to 90 days to process.

Which is correct?

Mike

 

[Novus Collectus]

2) If I want to purchase a C&R firearm at a gunshow, can I bring a copy of my C&R FFL and avoid all the paperwork? Do I need to get a copy of the seller's FFL, assuming they are a collector or dealer?

It is a good idea to bring a copy of the C&R list too so if the dealer doesn't know if it is a C&R, then you can show him.
The last gun show I was at, the dealer had some possible antiques which were at the very least obvious C&Rs, but he didn't want to sell them as such because he wasn't absolutley sure and he left his list at home. Being Maryland and the way the transfer laws are here for handguns, I didn't blame him one bit.

 

[Bruce333]

I was curious about the length of time for your C&R to be issued.

The FAQ's at www.surplusrifles.com (dated 2005) said the BATFE has 60 days to process an application.

I inquired at the 60 day mark and was told it takes up to 90 days to process.

Which is correct?

Mike

90 days. Call them again at 90 days...

Unfortunately for you Texas is one of the States that seems to take the longest (Ohio is another). ATF has the county split up in to regions, certain ones take longer than others. I've seen people post that it's been 4 months and still no license...Others (like me) had theirs in 2 weeks (makes no sense to me, but you are dealing with a Fed. Agency).

 

[Rick O'Shea]

If you're going to a gun show for C&R purposes, bring your bound book with you.
It should have the original unsigned certificate and signed copies in appropriate folders, as well as your record pages.
Much easier to get the transfer info on the spot as part of the sales process; less chance of getting the info wrong, and keeps you from putting off and forgetting to do it later.
Also gives the other party in the transaction some confidence that he or she is dealing with a responsible person that is visibly complying with the law.

 

[Titanvk56]

If a gun is 50 years old or older then it is C&R eligible regardless if it is on the list or not. There are a lot of dealers that don't take the time to read the regs.

The hard part with some gun manufactures is finding good DOM's for proof.

 

[Novus Collectus]

If you're going to a gun show for C&R purposes, bring your bound book with you.

Sounds like a good idea, but I thought the bound book is supposed to stay with the collection unless the ATF calls us down for a check and we have to bring the book with us to show them?

 

[AmbulanceDriver]

Bound Book

To further complicate things, I actually got the ok from ATF to use a computerized bound book. I'm not taking my pc with me to a gun show....