A Few Questions for Glock Owners (please!!)

[Randall53]

I'm really looking at buying a Glock 30 for my CCW, but don't know anyone that owns one, nor is there a location in my area I know of where I can rent to try one out. The 30 seems to be perfect for CCW, looking at the picture and I really enjoy shooting a 45 but my P90 is just too big.

After reading over 30 reviews on handgunreview.com, I'm pretty much impressed with everyones attitudes and praise of the Glocks, but could not find one thing about the trigger response.

Glocks are all double action from first to last shot from what I can find and this seems strange to me as I'm thinking harder to be accurate during rapid fire? What can you tell me about this? How far is the trigger travel, how smooth, how consistant. What about after 2000 rounds? 5000? etc. From what I've read they are very accurate weapons right out of the box, so I'm assuming the trigger response must make up for the double action only feature.

What about the "safe action system"? How do you like it and is it as good as Glock makes it out to be?

Lots of questions I know, but my research hasn't answered them for me and I'm hoping y'all can help me with them before I spend the big bucks!

Thanks!!!

Randall

 

[Glocker]

glock = love

i don't own a 30 but i hace a 36 ( same thing, only holds 6 in the mag and it's a little slimmer ) go for it, you'll love it, i would love to have a 30. GLOCK is the golden lamb to all guns, once you play with it you'll see what i'm talking about. i own other guns and love them, but not as well as my glocks. take a chance, if you don't like it you can always sell or trade.

 

[Joe D]

Randall, one can make the trigger pull as light or heavy as needed. I can get Glock trigger pulls under 1 lb. for competition if I need to.
I have mixed emotions about the G30. It is pretty chunky to me. I shot a G38 the other day and loved it. I really like the .45 GAP round. I can't wait to see the G39. I may have to get a G39 when they come out.

 

[Bobby Lee]

Glocks are basically DAO. Glocks calls them a safe action and the striker is preloaded to some degree but the trigger pull does a double action. It both pulls the slightly preloaded striker to the rear and releases it.

If you shoot rapid fire from reset, that is holding the trigger to the rear after the shot and only releasing it enough for the disconnector to do it's job, the triggger "feels" more like a good SA.

Rapid fire with a Glock is very controlable and very easy for most to do well.

The Glock 30 is a very good CCW gun. It will be very accurate and reliable out of the box.

A lot of BS is written about the Glock trigger. It is a good trigger IF you know how to use it.

Also Joe is correct. You can tune the Glock trigger several different ways to suit your needs.

 

[Sean Smith]

The Glock trigger pull is LIKE a single-action in that the length of pull is short and the weight is light @ 5.5 lbs stock. Mechanically, it works sort of like a DAO, only the striker starts and ends at half-cock with each shot, instead of uncocked.

Subjectively, the Glock trigger pull sucks horribly for anyone used to either a smooth double-action, or a crisp true single-action. The weight of pull is uneven and there is lots of creep. But it is a very usable trigger at the 7 yards most Glock owners can hit anything at.



Relax, I'm just kidding, I've owned several Glocks myself in the past.

 

[SamlautRanger]

I have personally found the Glock model 30 in 45 acp to be the most accurate of all the Glock. (i have fired most of the models). Actually, at least it seems to me, to have less recoil than the .40 cal Glock 23 and 27. Little heavier slide and double spring?? Anyway, trigger stays a 5.5 lbs. HAve fired Glock 19s that have had over 10000 rounds and have not noticed any differnt trigger pull from that of a glock that has only fired 100. I think you will be most happy with the Glock 30. It is a fine firearm. Never had any problem with mine and have been pretty accurate.

I am actually getting ready to send my Glock 30 off to www.arizonaresponsesystems.com to have the back strap of the grip molded straight. Thought I would try something new and see how it works.

 

[MrMurphy]

I carry a 30 daily.

I have approximately 10,000 rounds through mine and another 5-8,000 through other people's Glocks.

The standard Glock trigger pull weight is 5.5 lbs. It doesn't feel like a DAO trigger, it's much lighter.

The best advice I give to Glock newbies (I'm a moderator on glocktalk.com, which along with all the various glock models has other forums too like here) is shoot it like a revolver, just do a straight quick squeeze of the trigger. Too many people try to "sneak up" on the trigger, taking up the slack and then a hard pull to make the trigger break. You generally miss this way with a Glock, while it does work with other pistols. A smooth controlled squeeze similar to shooting a DA revolver fast is what works for me. I used to never hit a dang thing with a Glock and it drove me nuts (liked the gun hated the trigger). i grew up on 1911s and DA revolvers and my first handgun was a .357. One day I was shooting the .357 and switched to a Glock and shot it the same way and Ta DA! I hit everything I wanted to.... problem solved.

I carry mine in a Comp-Tac C-TAC holster and with a good gunbelt, size larger pants and a patterned shirt it literally disappears. I've worn my 30 comfortably 24 hours a day multiple times and 10-15 hours a day usually.

 

[MrMurphy]

P.S if you're in Central Texas, you can shoot mine.

 

[Rockstar]

I enjoy shooting Glocks, but don't prefer Mr. Murphy's trigger technique. Works for him; doesn't work for me.

 

[OF]

My advice: you absolutely have to shoot one yourself to make this decision.

That said, you could do worse than starting out on a G30. Even if you don't care for it, you won't have a hard time selling it if you went that route.

But you should make a real effort to get out and shoot one. Especially next to some other 'similar' guns to compare it to.

- Gabe

 

[bofe954]

In addition to what the others have said the glock trigger has a very short reset. Repeat shots require far less of a trigger movement than the first shot if you allow the trigger to reset carefully. It is not as dramatic a difference as a DA/SA, (it is the same break weight) but it does make quick follow up shots.

I think another advantage to the glocks is the similarity of all the pistols. You can have a compact, full size or midsize pistol all with nearly identical trigger pulls.

Keep in mind the G30 is probably similar in width to your P90, and the grip is chunky. I really think the big frame glocks are not for everybody. I had a G30 and a G21, the G30 is gone the G21 is going. I have a G17 that I would never sell.

 

[Randall53]

Thanks for the response!

Thanks for all the comments and Private Messages! I've decided to go with the G30. I looked at one today at a local pawn shop and really liked the feel of the grip and the size of the pistol. The DAO of the trigger doesn't seem to be an issue since it's rarely mentioned in reviews of the Glock, where as the size and feel of the grip of the 30 seems to be the biggest concern and it fit me well.

Thanks for your input~!!

 

[MrMurphy]

I have fairly small hands, the full size 21 is ok but doesn't feel the greatest. The 36 just feels weird.

The 30 is just right. Since I bought the 30 when they first came out, I'm glad.

 

[G-30]

I haven't owned any other handguns before. I bought the G-30 for my 1st one. I love it! It shoots increadibly well at close and long distance. The only thing I haven't figured out is how to carry it in the summer??? I'm a jean and "T" shirt person so I'm considering something else for summer concealment. If anyone has a good idea for summer concealment post up please.

Here is a pic of 30 rounds of WWB at 30 feet.

 

[Randall53]

Summer Carry

Pretty good shooting G30!!!

I live in Georgia and the summers here are very hot, very humid, very soon and it stays a long time!! My summer attaire is normally cutoff jeans and a tank top unless I'm at work. I've been using a SmartCarry for CC and really like it a lot. It's very comfortable with smaller handguns and conceals great, however, many disagree on the SC (draw time, sitting comfort etc....) and there are lots of threads with pro's/con's concerning the issues of the SC on this board and others (Glocktalk for instance) if you want to look. (Do an advanced search on thread titles using SmartCarry)

One advantage I have is I don't like tight jeans or pants, so I do wear them a bit big out of habit or preference and the SC works great for me. I've just bought a G30 and plan to use the SC. There are also a lot of pro's con's on this issue too. I did buy the Saf-T-Blok to try out when I do carry the Glock with the SC. I found there are many options out there, that's for sure.
Well....I hope this helps.

 

[MrMurphy]

G-30......get a Comp-tac C-Tac or Gurkha.

That's how I hide mine 365 days a year.