Yea, I think it's a riot to judge a gun by military standard requirements. From guns to tanks, in the past 70 years our military has both adopted some of the biggest leaps in warfare, along with some of the shoddiest pieces of crap known throughout military history.
a few Glock questions...
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tnieto2004
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The glock 17 is one of the most reliable pistols out there. Enjoy it! Some people dislike them just to go against the crowd (and most the time have very little experience with them). It was an excellent choice.
Dan Crocker
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So the Army dumbs down the specs to save some cash and we get magazines that are notoriously unreliable when loaded with more than ten rounds. It's a lose-lose situation period, no matter were the blame goes. I don't like the Beretta, I think it's a big, clunky gun to fire 15 rds of 9mm, but when I've had good factory mags, I can't complain about the gun's perfomance. It worked great with good mags.
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slammy
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I have several Glocks including the out of date discontinued nasty....GAP...geez I hate that lovely piece. You Will love your 17.....Just keeps on trucking!
Confederate
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I think replacing springs every 5,000 rounds is a bit unnecessary given the weapon's incredible resiliency. You should be able to shoot it many, many thousands of times. The only thing I have against Glock is that I just don't feel comfortable carrying one with a round up the snoot and I don't feel like I have the time to jack one into the chamber once I'm threatened. The last time I shot, I shot a friend's Glock and it functioned very well and had a great trigger pull. I REALLY liked it but was even more convinced that it wasn't a safe gun. I mean, I'd hate to be in a struggle for this gun if someone tried to take it away from me and it was in my holster. (It's too much like cocking and not locking a 1911.) As you shoot it, you'll have to determine your own comfort level.
slammy
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Confederate, I've been Reading about the gen glocks that have a different serration pattern on the slides...I think that was glocks way of addressing concerns like yours. I have not handled one yet but I have read the new grip texture and slides are hands above the old pattern.
Play Hard
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G36 stovepipes
Ok, I have been reading all about folks who are proud of the reliability of their Glocks. But I get stovepipes with my new (used) G36 approx one out of 20 rounds. I don't think I'm "limp wristing" but maybe. Even so, I've never had any problems like this with my other two semi auto 9mm's. Is there some common mechanical problem with the G36?
Ok, I have been reading all about folks who are proud of the reliability of their Glocks. But I get stovepipes with my new (used) G36 approx one out of 20 rounds. I don't think I'm "limp wristing" but maybe. Even so, I've never had any problems like this with my other two semi auto 9mm's. Is there some common mechanical problem with the G36?
Zerodefect
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The 36 had some bug that were resolved. I'd call Glock, try a fresh recoil spring and mag spring. What ammo are you shooting in it.
I've only had stovepipes from odd ammo and needed to adjust my grip. So not much experience with em.
I've only had stovepipes from odd ammo and needed to adjust my grip. So not much experience with em.
Play Hard
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I'm shooting Independence 230gr. The gun has not had 500 rounds thru it, so I doubt the springs are weak. I also get shell casings flying in all directions: left, right, back, up. Some hit me on top of the head. That can't be right. Is it a fact of life that a semi auto will not work correctly if you don't have a firm grip?
Nowhere Man
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Yes it is. What makes it worse is the light plastic frame and light loads.
Dave
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Well, good news today:
I finally got to go and shoot the Glock. Only took a month of waiting and paying the ridiculous price of $19 a box for Federal 124gr FMJs, but whatever.
all in all, put about 70 rounds through it. Pics are from my second (out of two) target.
^^dumped 27 shots into center of mass at a bit over 10 yards - all would fit into an 8-inch plate measured from the middle.
^^10 shots to head at 25 yards - seven hits, two close ones, and one oops.
for my first time shooting a handgun ever, it was fun. Too bad my AR groups today were utter crap, but I blame the range for not having anything other than Wolf for .223. God, that stuff sucks.
edit: also, feeding was nearly 100%. The very first round stove-piped, but after that there were no problems.
I finally got to go and shoot the Glock. Only took a month of waiting and paying the ridiculous price of $19 a box for Federal 124gr FMJs, but whatever.
all in all, put about 70 rounds through it. Pics are from my second (out of two) target.
^^dumped 27 shots into center of mass at a bit over 10 yards - all would fit into an 8-inch plate measured from the middle.
^^10 shots to head at 25 yards - seven hits, two close ones, and one oops.
for my first time shooting a handgun ever, it was fun. Too bad my AR groups today were utter crap, but I blame the range for not having anything other than Wolf for .223. God, that stuff sucks.
edit: also, feeding was nearly 100%. The very first round stove-piped, but after that there were no problems.
Nowhere Man
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You'll like that gun. Be careful though. Glocks have a tendancy to become addictive.
Dave
Dave
HippieMagic
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if the first round stovepiped you may have limp wristed for the simple fact that you just said it was your first time ever shooting a handgun... they are a little jumpier than people seem to realize.
Zerodefect
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The Glock 17 is really a sweet gun good choice. Some differences of opinion then some:
"less oil is better than too much".....it's a Glock, as long as you don't foul the chamber, too much oil will hardly effect it. You dunk it in oil and then roll it in sand and flour. It'll usually still run. So for all practicle purposes it's not rocket science. just lube it as the manual says, which coincedentally is nearly the same as most pistols. Learn to detail strip the side, clean the striker dry on a routine basis.
"stock glocks are the most reliable"....never seen this proven. modified Glocks run fine, sometimes better, if you know what your doing. Lone wolf steel recoil rod and a good spring can really fine tune a Glock nicely. Spring kits, trigger tuning can all make a difference if you do your homework. The Glockworz Fulcrum trigger is a work of art. Gives the Glock the second best combat trigger I've ever shot. Test 'em yourself. Nothing fancy or super high quality in a stock Glock, most good aftermarket parts are better built than the stock stuff. Not that it really matters, no mods are really needed. Do your own testing.
"don't worry about changing springs".......They are cheap, sometimes free. Change them as if your Glock was a spring eating 1911 and you'll allways be fine.
"M9 is best for milspec stuff, blah, blah, blah"......I can think of three guns worthy enough to compete for best pistol ever: Glock, M1911a1,......is the M9 the third? No!
ps. all 17's need a 19 to be happy.
"less oil is better than too much".....it's a Glock, as long as you don't foul the chamber, too much oil will hardly effect it. You dunk it in oil and then roll it in sand and flour. It'll usually still run. So for all practicle purposes it's not rocket science. just lube it as the manual says, which coincedentally is nearly the same as most pistols. Learn to detail strip the side, clean the striker dry on a routine basis.
"stock glocks are the most reliable"....never seen this proven. modified Glocks run fine, sometimes better, if you know what your doing. Lone wolf steel recoil rod and a good spring can really fine tune a Glock nicely. Spring kits, trigger tuning can all make a difference if you do your homework. The Glockworz Fulcrum trigger is a work of art. Gives the Glock the second best combat trigger I've ever shot. Test 'em yourself. Nothing fancy or super high quality in a stock Glock, most good aftermarket parts are better built than the stock stuff. Not that it really matters, no mods are really needed. Do your own testing.
"don't worry about changing springs".......They are cheap, sometimes free. Change them as if your Glock was a spring eating 1911 and you'll allways be fine.
"M9 is best for milspec stuff, blah, blah, blah"......I can think of three guns worthy enough to compete for best pistol ever: Glock, M1911a1,......is the M9 the third? No!
ps. all 17's need a 19 to be happy.
oneounceload
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EXACTLY - that's the lawyer talk stuff. I have thousands of reloads through my G17 with zero malfunctions - mixed brass, range-scrounged brass, different bullets, you name it....no issues - it's more reliable than my S&W 66-2, which has developed a habit of occasional light primer strikes.......
Have fun with the G17
There are lots of good things about Glocks, but I simply don't like them.
I have shot my son's 2 Glocks and also trained guys on the range who shoot them
- its an excellent pistol but we all have our personal preferences.
I think my main reservation is the long trigger pull.
I have shot my son's 2 Glocks and also trained guys on the range who shoot them
- its an excellent pistol but we all have our personal preferences.
I think my main reservation is the long trigger pull.
punkndisorderly
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I've got two Glocks that have become my go-to guns for self defense. I use a 34 which is just a 17 with an extened barrel and slide, lighter trigger, and extended mag release for my house gun. I've added a light/laser combo that is working well.
For carry, I use a "Baby" Glock 26 for carry. Basicly a shrunken down 17. Neither have ever given me a problem of any sort other than a couble of stovepipes in the first 100 rounds on the 34. After a few thousand rounds out of the 34 and about a thousand rounds out of the 26, I don't plan on switching anytime soon.
I turned up my nose at Glocks for years. I shot a magazine here and there through Glocks over that time, and always thought they feeled crumby in the hand. Then, I went through a first steps class with my wife a year ago. Glocks were provided for the class and I figured I'd just shoot them and let them worry about cleaning them. I had shot my concealed carry class the week before with my full sized Springfield 1911. During the first steps course, I shot the same course of fire with the provided "Baby" G26. To my suprise, I shot better with the Glock. I've never looked back.
The only thing I don't like about the Glock is lack of a manual safety. For holster carry or nightstand use without a round in the chamber, it's not an issue. For a gun to be in my glove box or on my car seat, I wanted something that requred more force on the trigger to discharge and use a S&W 327PD in 357 Magnum.
For carry, I use a "Baby" Glock 26 for carry. Basicly a shrunken down 17. Neither have ever given me a problem of any sort other than a couble of stovepipes in the first 100 rounds on the 34. After a few thousand rounds out of the 34 and about a thousand rounds out of the 26, I don't plan on switching anytime soon.
I turned up my nose at Glocks for years. I shot a magazine here and there through Glocks over that time, and always thought they feeled crumby in the hand. Then, I went through a first steps class with my wife a year ago. Glocks were provided for the class and I figured I'd just shoot them and let them worry about cleaning them. I had shot my concealed carry class the week before with my full sized Springfield 1911. During the first steps course, I shot the same course of fire with the provided "Baby" G26. To my suprise, I shot better with the Glock. I've never looked back.
The only thing I don't like about the Glock is lack of a manual safety. For holster carry or nightstand use without a round in the chamber, it's not an issue. For a gun to be in my glove box or on my car seat, I wanted something that requred more force on the trigger to discharge and use a S&W 327PD in 357 Magnum.
Play Hard
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Longer Barrel?
Question, it possible to install a longer barrel on a Glock to get higher bullet velocities?
Question, it possible to install a longer barrel on a Glock to get higher bullet velocities?
REAPER4206969
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Yes. What model do you have?
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Enachos
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You can never go wrong with a glock! Now all you need is a subcompact!
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Got me a G17 RTF2 for USPSA. Took it to the match without doing anything at all to it. No cleaning, no lubing, no break in, as it came from the factory. Shot 3 matches with it. No failures of any kind. Love it. It truly is a perfect tool.
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