a few Glock questions...

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Happy belated birthday! Enjoy the Glock!

Only the sort of guy who carries a plastic pistol would slander our Army by asserting we would equip our fighting men with anything but the best pistol on the market.
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Isn't every piece of equipment the military issues made by the cheapest bidder?
 
22LRFan: "Isn't every piece of equipment the military issues made by the cheapest bidder?"

Generally, yes -- but only among those bidders whose products already have met minimum Army standards. Glocks do not; they specifically have been disqualified for a variety of shortcomings.
 
Ok not to high-jack the thread, but I thought the Glock 17/19 was disqualified because of a patent not yet expiring from SIG. Could be wrong. I don't think I would mind having either if I was in the services (which may soon happen).

RP88 I think you know what the next step is...RANGE PICS!
 
Only the sort of guy who carries a plastic pistol would slander our Army by asserting we would equip our fighting men with anything but the best pistol on the market.
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As someone who has carried the M9 into combat twice, I will say that it is not the best pistol on the market. This sentiment is shared by many of my fellow service members.
However, I will admit that the shortcomings that I have experienced with the M9 will largely be solved when the military stops being so g*ddamned cheap about who they purchase magazines from.
 
Only the sort of guy who carries a plastic pistol would slander our Army by asserting we would equip our fighting men with anything but the best pistol on the market.
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thats a pretty steep claim. Either way, I think I'll be happy with the Glock since I won't be running around in a desert, worrying about whether or not if the op guide or frame parts may melt or warp.
 
Top 5 items for your new Glock:

Ammo, ammo, ammo, ammo, ammo

Number six: A cleaning kit.

Number seven: A good holster to park it and carry it around in.

I've been firing my Glock 17 for 7 years now. Broke a frame rail a couple of years ago (mine is an E-series gun and this was a known problem in this serial number range) at about 7500 rounds. Glock was good about setting it right and I'm still shooting it.

Still haven't found THE holster for it, but I know for me it is THE handgun. I also have a G-26 which CCWs like a breeze and still gives me lots of reliable 9mm on target with ease.

BTW, about the Beretta 92s: My brother wanted one for a long time. After being issued one for a while, he won't even look at them. He's now a 1911 guy. :eek:
 
I have shot several different types of ammo through all of my glocks (9mm, 357sig, 40, and 45) and I have only found one type of ammo that doesnt do so well and that is the CCI blazer (aluminum case). The primers backed out on every round I fired with my G-17. The loose primers would jam it up , and if it didnt , I knew I would have to go search the guts of the pistol for the primer. Other than that , I have fired steel case, brass, and nickel plated with no issues at all.
They dont recommend using lead cast bullets unless you have an aftermarket barrel ( with standard rifling). They dont recommend using reloads, but with the way the prices of ammo is going up , I shoot my reloads anyway. They dont recommend +P+ pressured 9mm, but I have heard of folks using it and not having any issues.
I have only read of the kabooms in 40cal and 45acp, but it could happen to any caliber, in just about any firearm. Most kabooms have been found to be the cause of using bad or misloaded reloads, but i am sure there have been freak occurances.
As far as round counts go , I have heard reports of firing into the 100,000 + range. The normal has been said to be around 40,000-50,000 rounds.
Enjoy your new Glock.
 
Glocks do not; they specifically have been disqualified for a variety of shortcomings.
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What variety? When did not designing to meet the requirements of the DOD become a shortcoming?
 
Glocks do not; they specifically have been disqualified for a variety of shortcomings.

What variety? When did not designing to meet the requirements of the DOD become a shortcoming?
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I think he means the "shortcomings" of: no external hammer and no external decocking/safety lever.

Just remember: An elephant is a mouse built to military specs. ;)
 
Keep it clean, feed it regularly & you'll be fine. That pistol w/ factory ammo will be handed down from generation to generation. There was a report someplace w/ a 17 w/ 1 million rounds plus through it
 
I Have many differnt glocks but only one 92fs. I can say I like and trust the glocks more then the Beretta's. But they are both good brands.
 
What variety? When did not designing to meet the requirements of the DOD become a shortcoming?
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Rumor has it that Gatson didn't put the 17 in the 85 trials because he couldn't produce enough guns and one of the DOD requirements was that they be licensed for production by other companies.
Even if it had passed with flying colors, the US military is soooo ridiculously traditionalist when it comes to small arms that it likely wouldn't have been adopted anyhow.
 
Rumor has it that Gatson didn't put the 17 in the 85 trials because he couldn't produce enough guns and one of the DOD requirements was that they be licensed for production by other companies.
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True, Glock has been diligent in their defense of their patents. However, To make a submission for DOD would have required some redesign due to the "published DOD requirements" of manual safeties.
 
what would be some good lube to use on the slide rails? I would probably like something a bit more thicker than CLP. Thinking possibly light motor oil. Anyone have a good suggestion? I use motor oil on my AK, but...it's an AK.
 
However, I will admit that the shortcomings that I have experienced with the M9 will largely be solved when the military stops being so g*ddamned cheap about who they purchase magazines from.
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As an aside...

I know a little of the magazine problems to which you refer.

The magazines in question were made to the US Army's specifications...and they met those specifications. Is it the fault of the contractor that the Army's specs were flawed...or is it the Army's?

Magazine vendors make many things besides magazines. They bid on a contract, and build to the customer's blueprint specs. They're not equipped with weapons, ammuniton, and a firing range, and they don't really have the time nor the manpower to do any testing. All they can do is make the product according to the specs that they're given.

As you were!
 
USPSA shooters generally (as I understand it) swap to a new Glock around the 60-70K round mark as a preventative measure. I think the thing to look for is the pin holes getting "out of round". I really couldn't tell you based on first hand knowledge. Not including .22LR, I haven't fired that many rounds through every pistol I've ever owned combined.
 
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yeah i wanted another handgun in 9mm and every time i think i would settle for one, i always get drawn back to glocks. i already have one but want 9mm because it's cheaper to shoot. wow glock would replace the recoil spring for free?
 
Generally, yes -- but only among those bidders whose products already have met minimum Army standards. Glocks do not; they specifically have been disqualified for a variety of shortcomings.
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Other products having met the "MINIMUM Army standards":

Chauchat
M73
M219
M85
M60
M16A1
 
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