A Good Old 30-06 Tactical Rifle Build

[Dthunter]

USSR: the bullet wil go sub sonic Waaayyy before they get to the target thats true! Its like throwing a softball! LOL!

If the twist rate is sufficient, a bullet doesnt need to be supersonic to stay stable. You may know that, but I just wanted others on this site to understand that a bullet doesnt "need" to be super sonic to be/remain stable.

If the bullet is sufficiently stable as it crosses through the supersonic/trans sonic/ and into sub sonic speeds, it can remain stable after this transition.

The case capacity is certainly minimal for sure.

But I dont understand what the shoulder has to do with this long range shooting goal. Do you mean that the small shoulder tends to create issues with dependable headspace and accuracy? Just curious.

This project is going to be fuuunnn!

 

[USSR]

If the twist rate is sufficient, a bullet doesnt need to be supersonic to stay stable. You may know that, but I just wanted others on this site to understand that a bullet doesnt "need" to be super sonic to be/remain stable.

If the bullet is sufficiently stable as it crosses through the supersonic/trans sonic/ and into sub sonic speeds, it can remain stable after this transition.

Totally depends upon the bullet and it's boattail. The Sierra 168gr MatchKing with it's 13 degree boattail is horrendous when going transonic. I once spotted for a guy using them at 1,000 yards, and it was ugly. The M72/M118 bullet, on the other hand, with it's 9 degree boattail, handles going transonic really well. This is the bullet that the Sierra 175gr MatchKing was patterned after.

But I dont understand what the shoulder has to do with this long range shooting goal. Do you mean that the small shoulder tends to create issues with dependable headspace and accuracy?

Exactly.

Don

 

[Dthunter]

It is amazing how such subtle differences in bullet form can make such a big difference!
What I find funny is I have seen guys shot the 168 sierra quite well at 1000, then another day, terrible! Just the limits of its design.

I havent had any issues with the shoulders on any of my whelens yet. I had a Rem 700 classic in 35 whelan, and it was the most accurate straight factory rifle I ever had. It would
Honestly AVERAGE around .5" at 100! Amazing! But heres the kicker! The chamber was poorly cut. It had bad reamer chatter marks the entire length of the chamber! So bad that I had to actually modify my dies so I could size the case enough to allow rechambering!
And it still shot that well! LOL!

I think the 35 Whelan will be fun to experiment with. No matter what the maximum distance I will be able to shoot it accurately to.


Thanks for the replies USSR,(DON)

 

[centurion20000]

A friend of mine makes these. His company name is: Chinchaga bullet co.

The steel tip is swedged into place during he last ogive forming operation. The purpose of the steel tip is to produce a super small bullet tip/metplate. To increase the BC as much as possible while using a given bullet form factor/geometry.

As to them being AP, I have no clue. The bullet construction is conventional, and designed for long range precision.

He is centered in the Peace country in Alberta.

[DELETED] : Request for contact info.
Thanks.

It would appear that I found his contact information.

Dale Janzen
[email protected]
780-624-8832

 

[centurion20000]

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2.) I planned on squeezing the maximum performance out of the 06, then down the road, cut the barrel down to 24", and then get a brake added.

She shoots sweet! Its a great old cartridge!
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Great rifle. Doing the same thing here with my semi-auto 30-06 [battle rifle].

 

[tarosean]

What makes this "tactical"?

 

[VVelox]

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[USSR]

What makes this "tactical"?

Basically, all the attributes that make for a rifle capable of LR precision shooting without the weight, sensitivity and ergonomics of a benchrest rifle. If we call them sniper rifles, some guys get their panties all bunched up, so we call them tactical rifles.

Don

 

[Dthunter]

Well typed USSR! Some people reeealy get
Uptight calling them sniper rifles!

 

[tarosean]

Basically, all the attributes that make for a rifle capable of LR precision shooting without the weight, sensitivity and ergonomics of a benchrest rifle. If we call them sniper rifles, some guys get their panties all bunched up, so we call them tactical rifles.

Its a custom built rifle.. Be proud of that fact, without sticking some stupid moniker on it..

 

[USSR]

Its a custom built rifle.. Be proud of that fact, without sticking some stupid moniker on it..

Sorry, tarosean, but it is a purpose-built rifle. No different than calling a car built for racing a race car, and not simply a custom built car.

Don

 

[lencac]

Yours is a spectacular example of a custom build. Great job
I particularly like the cartridge selection. Being that the 30.06 has been around for more than 100 years it seems to get overlooked for super long range applications.
I too have a custom build in 30.06. But this one is how it was done in 2001. This was built for me back then by Gruning Precision out of Riverside CA. 27" Douglas barrel, fully has had everything done to it. This was not a cheap rifle to buy It is horrendously smooth and deadly accurate. It flies 190gr. MK's @2900 fps. and 200gr. MK's @2800 fps. It can ring a 12" dia. steel plate at 1000 yrds. virtually every time as long as I done my thing properly:banghead:

 

[Trent]

Choat makes great stocks.

You don't understand what a difference a good stock makes on your stability and accuracy until you change out one on a rifle you have shot a bit, and discover the difference first-hand.

 

[CountGlockulla]

That is way cool. A .280 long range setup will be my next rifle.

 

[Dthunter]

Thanks for the comments guys! I can hardly wait to get back home to do more shooting!

 

[snakeman]

NICE!!!!!!