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A More Negative Reaction To Open Carry Of Knife than RIFLE?!

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by Cosmoline, Nov 2, 2012.

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  1. Harley Rider 55

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    Demandind and talking are not the same. The OP said someone DEMANDED information. You refer to it as ASKING or TALKING.
    If a homless person asks you for some money, it (most places) is NOT a crime.
    If that homless person demanded some money from you, it is called robbery.

    Personal business and information is intellectual property. Demanding property is robbery.
     
  2. Cosmoline

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    Wow, how have you stayed out of prison all these years? I ask because the approach you are approving is a felony. A very serious one. You don't get to use deadly force, or indeed any level of physical force, simply because someone comes up and makes a verbal demand. Someone can demand $5 from you. Or $5,000. Maybe you owe them the money, maybe they're nuts. But either way, unless there is a threat of force you don't get to respond with force. And unless there is an imminent and unlawful threat of DEADLY force, you are not justified in responding with deadly force. You really need to learn your state's laws on these matters. None allow you to attack or kill someone simply because they make a verbal demand for information.

    In fact the demand has little to do with anything. It's the threat and any tool the person has to carry out the threat that are important. If someone comes up and says "Please can I borrow ten dollars and if you don't I'll kill you with this pistol," then you're facing imminent unlawful deadly force. Even if the person is polite. Conversely if a rude person says "Give me ten bucks, moron!" but makes no threat and displays no weapon, then your response is simply "no" or just walk away.
     
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    Well, (making the assumption that he has) it may be due to the fact that testosterone-laced assertions are infinitely easier to make from a keyboard than in person?
     
  4. hso

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    We've established that no one here considers bombast and posturing worthwhile here or in the real world, so lets get back on topic.
     
  5. glistam

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    I can't help but be amused when people reach negatively to knives, so I love that "To scare sissies like you" remark. Probably my fav type of situation is when I open a manual one-handed knife in front of someone and they accuse me of packing a switchblade. It's usually nervously good-natured though, and gives me an opportunity to explain the difference, as well as educate them about knife laws and the stupidity of banning knives such as switchblades for being "fast" when a fixed blade is always open.
     
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    There is an exemption for renactors while at events and for the most part when you have the whole outfit on the Police have enough sense to realize what your doing. Mine is 12 inchs Indian Bone Handle with polished Brass Hilt. It was tied down in my sheath since I keep it razor sharp for ham cleaving demonstrations.
     
  7. il_10

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    One of my earliest experiences with OC was a time I was going for coyotes with a few friends one night. We stopped into a convenience store to pick up a few packs of smokes, and a buddy in front of me had a ka-bar on his belt. The woman behind the counter noticed and became noticeably shaken, to the point where she had difficulty cashing him out. I hadn't yet turned 21 an acquired my CHP, and I had my cz-82 carried openly on my hip right behind him. When it came my turn to pay, she noticed my pistol and immediately calmed down. I chalked this up to her assuming anyone with a big knife is there to do harm, and anyone with an openly carried pistol is a cop.
    That was one of my earliest experiences with OC and stuck with me. It's oft suggested on this board that people either don't notice or don't care about OC or printing, but it was interesting to watch the reaction to a ka-bar be incredibly negative where the reaction to a pistol was positive in someone behind the counter of a convenience store and only seconds apart.
     
  8. Stress_Test

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    For some reason it seems like there's more visceral fear towards a knife.

    Heck, I feel it myself sometimes when a co-worker flips open a spring loaded blade. That *clack* sound always raises my alert level a bit (unless it's my knife making the sound of course! :) )
     
  9. Owen Sparks

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    Knives give some people the willies. I myself am a little bit scaired of straight razors even though I own dozens of knives in practically every other configuration and several swords. I don't own a straight razor and could never relax in a barbers chair for a traditional shave with one. Watching the movie Sweeny Todd the demond barber of Fleet street did not help my phobia at all.
     
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    Thanks for making this thread. I've gotten a couple surprised responses from friends when I've pulled out a pocket knife before (an Opinel actually, come to think of it :rolleyes:...), but never thought much of it. Will certainly be more aware of who I mess with a knife around in the future!
     
  11. the count

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    Say thanks to the main stream media for making the entire population paranoid. But what do you expect with guys like Michael Bloomberg that thinks soda pop is a weapon of mass destruction.
     
  12. armoredman

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    Interesting. I have never experienced any negative reactions to any bladed item I have ever carried. At one time, for grins and giggles, I carried a short sword, (functional and good looking), and I had some people look confused, but nobody panicked or "freaked out". Of course carrying of a knife in AZ is generally nothing, except government buildings, airlines, schools, etc., but I can't remember any reactions at all to my Benchmade Resistor or my Leatherman being used in public. I also have a seatbelt slicer velcroed on the drivers side door for emergencies.
    We did pass knife preemption in 2010, as well, no patchwork of laws to watch out for. Only knives we can't carry are "switchblades", go figure.
     
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    I have noticed the same reaction to bringing out a knife to open a package or slice an apple for someone. I think it is the sound that a folder makes when it is quickly brought out from a pocket and opened. It is the knife equivalent to chambering a round in a 12 ga.shotgun, it just gets people's attention. It might be slightly juvenile, but I can't help it.
     
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