DeepSouth
Random Guy
I just want to voice a rant about all the hit this poll threads that are such common place. I believe the we are doing a disservice to ourselves and as well as website owners by bombarding polls to "win."
If a news site, or any other site for that matter, puts up a weekly/daily poll and gets say 1500-2000 hits then puts up a 2A related poll and gets 6000-8000 hits their not to stupid to figure out what happened. Tons of people (with an agenda for a specific outcome) not normally affiliated with said website and outside of their normal audience voted in the poll. Therefore they'll just throw out the poll and as a result they don't know how their audience actually feels about the issue. This is a problem not only to them but to us.
Most of the polls people seem to reference are on left leaning news websites, and while I personally don't think many "leftists" (for lack of a better word) are pro 2A that doesn't seem to be the majority opinion around here. So, for the sake of argument I'll assume I'm wrong. What that would then mean is that when a left leaning news outlet puts up a poll up to gauge where their audience is on the issue, they can't.... Because of us having to "win" their (non-scientific) poll. We cause them to not be able to get a honest evaluation, that IMO isn't good for anyone. ESPECIALLY if I'm wrong and their are lots of left leaning 2A supporters.
Further more, I believe for us to properly engage the average sceptic we need to know the beliefs and opinions of them. This is made much more difficult because we can't see real results in the polls. What specifically brought this to my attn was a poll that asked something along the lines of "should children be able to learn to shoot" the first time I saw the poll NO was leading the next day YES was leading tremendously. Now if most people, or even a lot of people, believe kids shouldn't be able to learn to shoot then we need to know it so we can try to educate them. I just wish I knew the real results, not the results we trump up for our cause.
If these polls had any credibility to them I might understand, but they are non-scientific and if anyone ever tried to reference one of them they'd be laughed out of the room. The only thing they can show is the opinion of their specific audience, and that matters to them and should matter to us.
Okay, rant over. I feel better now.
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I blame all typos on iPhones auto-correct
If a news site, or any other site for that matter, puts up a weekly/daily poll and gets say 1500-2000 hits then puts up a 2A related poll and gets 6000-8000 hits their not to stupid to figure out what happened. Tons of people (with an agenda for a specific outcome) not normally affiliated with said website and outside of their normal audience voted in the poll. Therefore they'll just throw out the poll and as a result they don't know how their audience actually feels about the issue. This is a problem not only to them but to us.
Most of the polls people seem to reference are on left leaning news websites, and while I personally don't think many "leftists" (for lack of a better word) are pro 2A that doesn't seem to be the majority opinion around here. So, for the sake of argument I'll assume I'm wrong. What that would then mean is that when a left leaning news outlet puts up a poll up to gauge where their audience is on the issue, they can't.... Because of us having to "win" their (non-scientific) poll. We cause them to not be able to get a honest evaluation, that IMO isn't good for anyone. ESPECIALLY if I'm wrong and their are lots of left leaning 2A supporters.
Further more, I believe for us to properly engage the average sceptic we need to know the beliefs and opinions of them. This is made much more difficult because we can't see real results in the polls. What specifically brought this to my attn was a poll that asked something along the lines of "should children be able to learn to shoot" the first time I saw the poll NO was leading the next day YES was leading tremendously. Now if most people, or even a lot of people, believe kids shouldn't be able to learn to shoot then we need to know it so we can try to educate them. I just wish I knew the real results, not the results we trump up for our cause.
If these polls had any credibility to them I might understand, but they are non-scientific and if anyone ever tried to reference one of them they'd be laughed out of the room. The only thing they can show is the opinion of their specific audience, and that matters to them and should matter to us.
Okay, rant over. I feel better now.
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I blame all typos on iPhones auto-correct