easyg
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The CZ 75B SA (Single-Action) .40 is very accurate.
A Really Accurate .40 S&W
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drtee
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Kanook I like your signature. Mine must be defective as well. ;-]
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I can't believe that no one has mentioned the superb P06.
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GojuBrian
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All the reviews on the XDM40 say they can perform what you are asking. For around $600 it'll leave you cash for ammo.
TDR911
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It is more the shooter than it is the gun. Most of the guns out there will outshoot the shooters. For a true accuracy test of any firearm you will need a Ranson Rest. This holds the gun in a fixture so there is no human input at all. There is a lever that operates the trigger.
The biggest thing is what is the most comfortable fit for your hand. After that the most comfortable and smooth trigger that appeals to you. Last Practice, Practice, Practice, Good training or trainer, and a lot more Practice ........
The biggest thing is what is the most comfortable fit for your hand. After that the most comfortable and smooth trigger that appeals to you. Last Practice, Practice, Practice, Good training or trainer, and a lot more Practice ........
schmeky
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I have an SP-01 (9mm) converted to .40. I have never gotten the accuracy from it I thought I should. I worked up some loads and managed to shoot some 1.25-1.50" groups from a sandbag rest at 25 yards.
I was surprised to say the least. I do appreciate all the responses. I think my quest has ended.
I was surprised to say the least. I do appreciate all the responses. I think my quest has ended.
boomstik45
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To date, the most accurate .40 I've fired was a full-sized HK USP .40. That thing grouped wonderfully.
The Sig 226 and 229 models have been pretty accurate, though for me not as much as that HK.
Now here's the kicker: the only thing close and maybe just as good.....has been the Springfield XD-M. Wow. Accurate as all get out. I'd love to compare it to the HK. Heck of a gun...
The Sig 226 and 229 models have been pretty accurate, though for me not as much as that HK.
Now here's the kicker: the only thing close and maybe just as good.....has been the Springfield XD-M. Wow. Accurate as all get out. I'd love to compare it to the HK. Heck of a gun...
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I said the 226 to start with earlier, but I also second anybody who says a CZ of any sort or a Beretta 96, Sig 229, or one of my favorites my Browning Hi Power in .40, It just makes it so easy to embarass your friends when you have a Hi Power Practical when you go shoot groups for money...can't speak for anything else with any real intelligence because I own these guns but havn't owned or shot any of the other .40's mentioned here.
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When recommending a gun we should only recommend those that we have personally shot. It's redicules to offer any opinion unless you have.
I have shot the following:
XDM
XD
M&P
EAA Witness Match
Kel Tec P40 (POS)
Glock 22,23,27
Beretta PX4 Storm
STI Edge
Baby Eagle
Taurus PT
Sig P226, P229
Hi Point
Kahr P40
HK P2000
Maybe more. Used to work at an indoor range. In my hands the XDM was the easiest to shoot accurately. The M&P was the softest shooter. And the STI was impressive but it's big and heavy. The EAA is my favorite. I urge you to shoot as many as you can. What I might call accurate may differ for you.
I have shot the following:
XDM
XD
M&P
EAA Witness Match
Kel Tec P40 (POS)
Glock 22,23,27
Beretta PX4 Storm
STI Edge
Baby Eagle
Taurus PT
Sig P226, P229
Hi Point
Kahr P40
HK P2000
Maybe more. Used to work at an indoor range. In my hands the XDM was the easiest to shoot accurately. The M&P was the softest shooter. And the STI was impressive but it's big and heavy. The EAA is my favorite. I urge you to shoot as many as you can. What I might call accurate may differ for you.
jakemccoy
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Any of the guns mentioned are going to be way more accurate than you. In other words, if you're bench testing one of these guns mentioned, the accuracy is probably going to be quite high for any one of them. The inaccuracy that goes into the equation comes from your grip, stance, focus, etc., in relation to the particular gun.
EOD Guy in VA
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Consider waiting a month or so and picking up an HK P30 in 40S&W when they hit the street. My 9mm is excellent in every respect.
Not that your suggestion is a bad one (I'm going to buy one when they become available), but the current P30 trigger pull leaves a lot to be desired if you are looking for "match grade" accuracy. I've dry fired a couple P30s and the single-action trigger isn't as nice as even a regular USP. Don't know why H&K didn't pay more attention to this particular model's trigger...when comparing the P30 to a USP w/ match trigger, there's a huge difference in the trigger pull. I'm actually hoping H&K releases a match trigger kit for the P30 (9mm and .40). That way we can take full advantage of the P30's otherwise great mechanical accuracy.
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*IF* I had the budget, I would have went with the HK first choice, SIG second choice......
As fate would have it - I picked up a Glock 22 with the new 'rough texture finish' treatment; EODguy being retired Army if you have valid D.O.D ID you qualify for the govt / LE sales for Glock. Got my G22 for 438.00
I got the G22, a box of range fodder ammo and a box of hyrashoks for just over 500.00 out the door, including tax and FFL fee... Shoots well, it is glock, it goes bang every time in all circumstances. Have yet to shoot from a rest however.
I digress - that was at the height of the 'Obamamania' and contending with greedy gun grabbers... Now one can pick up the HK, SIGs and EAAs we have been speaking of quite easily...
www.ableammo.com
www.budsgunshop.com -
inventory seems to have recovered from obamamania quite well at both of these outfits. Good people, have purchased from both.
As fate would have it - I picked up a Glock 22 with the new 'rough texture finish' treatment; EODguy being retired Army if you have valid D.O.D ID you qualify for the govt / LE sales for Glock. Got my G22 for 438.00
I got the G22, a box of range fodder ammo and a box of hyrashoks for just over 500.00 out the door, including tax and FFL fee... Shoots well, it is glock, it goes bang every time in all circumstances. Have yet to shoot from a rest however.
I digress - that was at the height of the 'Obamamania' and contending with greedy gun grabbers... Now one can pick up the HK, SIGs and EAAs we have been speaking of quite easily...
www.ableammo.com
www.budsgunshop.com -
inventory seems to have recovered from obamamania quite well at both of these outfits. Good people, have purchased from both.
If I may
In my experience, a thread such as this one usually invites bias opinions. No offense intended. Its simply human nature. There are many types and brands of handguns that offer reliable, accurate products. I have a Glock Model 23, CZ 75 B and a Ruger P94 which are all in the .40 S&W caliber. The best of the 3 concerning accuracy in my opinion is the Glock but my shooting habits may fit the Glock better. For instance, you may find the CZ more accurate, the next person may find the Ruger more accurate and so on and so on. The best way to find out is by going to your local range and trying out a few different models. Most people will let you have a go with their handguns or at least Ive found this to be true in my experience. Not trying to belittle your question but I thought I`d give it to you straight. CYA
In my experience, a thread such as this one usually invites bias opinions. No offense intended. Its simply human nature. There are many types and brands of handguns that offer reliable, accurate products. I have a Glock Model 23, CZ 75 B and a Ruger P94 which are all in the .40 S&W caliber. The best of the 3 concerning accuracy in my opinion is the Glock but my shooting habits may fit the Glock better. For instance, you may find the CZ more accurate, the next person may find the Ruger more accurate and so on and so on. The best way to find out is by going to your local range and trying out a few different models. Most people will let you have a go with their handguns or at least Ive found this to be true in my experience. Not trying to belittle your question but I thought I`d give it to you straight. CYA
schmeky
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MRPAPA,
I understand your post. But in this case (my case that is), I have gotten excellent 25 yard results with my Les Baer, CZ-97, Kimber Classic Custom, and my customized Norinco 1911. Pull out the SP-01/40 and I was more or less spraying bullets. 3.0+ groups were the norm. I personally like it tighter at 25 yards. Many would say 3.0" at 25 yards is combat accurate, but that's not what I wanted.
The mistake I made was thinking the .40 is as forgiving as a .45. I could almost load salt-peter and sawdust for a .45 and get great accuracy, but I was using pistols with above average inherent accuracy. In my case, it took more effort to find the right .40 loads for my intended application.
As a long time reloader, I should have worked on an accuracy load diligently, first. Didn't mean to waste anyones time and I really appreciate the responses.
I understand your post. But in this case (my case that is), I have gotten excellent 25 yard results with my Les Baer, CZ-97, Kimber Classic Custom, and my customized Norinco 1911. Pull out the SP-01/40 and I was more or less spraying bullets. 3.0+ groups were the norm. I personally like it tighter at 25 yards. Many would say 3.0" at 25 yards is combat accurate, but that's not what I wanted.
The mistake I made was thinking the .40 is as forgiving as a .45. I could almost load salt-peter and sawdust for a .45 and get great accuracy, but I was using pistols with above average inherent accuracy. In my case, it took more effort to find the right .40 loads for my intended application.
As a long time reloader, I should have worked on an accuracy load diligently, first. Didn't mean to waste anyones time and I really appreciate the responses.
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EOD Guy in VA
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MRPAPA...
As for bias... if, for example, 20 people say a particular gun is the best thing since sliced bread... well, maybe it is.
As for bias... if, for example, 20 people say a particular gun is the best thing since sliced bread... well, maybe it is.
EOD GUY,
Im not into online arguments. I could say that on the world-wide web the number 20 is probably a ten thousanth of a percent, or I could say that there are many 1911 guys and Glock guys on this forum along with Sig guys etc.etc., or I could ask you how you could become so defensive with me when my remark was factual and realistic
BUT I won`t...
I will, however, stick with my original post and insist that this guy go to his local range and get a feel for the many different products out there. Nothing against the CZ guys but I once asked the same question and I recieved a ton of CZ answers so I went and ordered a CZ 75 B which I still own. I took it with me to a run and gun match and it jammed 3 times that day. Now this may have been a lemon, one gun that was poorly built out of a thousand or so, but it wasnt the ammo as I had used different types after the first jam. So my answer to his question is based off of these factual events. The CZ is in my vault where it has been because even after sending it back and having it returned it continued to jam up with me. I mean absolutely no offense to anyone`s prefered handgun. I`m simply stating that hands on experience when choosing a firearm is the best information that one can get. It doesnt matter if 20 or 200 people say the same thing, the handgun may not fit or suite him. Many different types and brands of handgun can achieve great accuracy with a bit of trigger work along with a few other customizations so finding one that he "likes" will be a great start in getting what he wants.
Im not into online arguments. I could say that on the world-wide web the number 20 is probably a ten thousanth of a percent, or I could say that there are many 1911 guys and Glock guys on this forum along with Sig guys etc.etc., or I could ask you how you could become so defensive with me when my remark was factual and realistic
BUT I won`t...
I will, however, stick with my original post and insist that this guy go to his local range and get a feel for the many different products out there. Nothing against the CZ guys but I once asked the same question and I recieved a ton of CZ answers so I went and ordered a CZ 75 B which I still own. I took it with me to a run and gun match and it jammed 3 times that day. Now this may have been a lemon, one gun that was poorly built out of a thousand or so, but it wasnt the ammo as I had used different types after the first jam. So my answer to his question is based off of these factual events. The CZ is in my vault where it has been because even after sending it back and having it returned it continued to jam up with me. I mean absolutely no offense to anyone`s prefered handgun. I`m simply stating that hands on experience when choosing a firearm is the best information that one can get. It doesnt matter if 20 or 200 people say the same thing, the handgun may not fit or suite him. Many different types and brands of handgun can achieve great accuracy with a bit of trigger work along with a few other customizations so finding one that he "likes" will be a great start in getting what he wants.
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