A special request for the revolver forum about the S&W locking mechanism
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I think a lot of people complain about the locks in the hope that S&W will actually listen to the customer and get rid of the damn things. That's not likely to happen though since S&W is doing pretty well these days and selling lots of guns.
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I think a lot of people complain about the locks in the hope that S&W will actually listen to the customer and get rid of the damn things. That's not likely to happen though since S&W is doing pretty well these days and selling lots of guns.
So the inference is that if they weren't doing so well, they might reconsider?
I wish they weren't selling so many and were indeed hurting. They'd get the message real quick and fix things.
Too many sheep in the world. They'll keep buying what they're offered. Yeah.
I think a lot of people complain about the locks in the hope that S&W will actually listen to the customer and get rid of the damn things. That's not likely to happen though since S&W is doing pretty well these days and selling lots of guns.
So the inference is that if they weren't doing so well, they might reconsider?
I wish they weren't selling so many and were indeed hurting. They'd get the message real quick and fix things.
Too many sheep in the world. They'll keep buying what they're offered. Yeah.
Nightcrawler
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The Captain strikes again.
One minor correction. A few dozen people complain about the locks on an anonymous internet forum that no one from corporate Smith & Wesson likely reads, and then they're surprised that nothing happens as a result. Being mad on the internet, in of itself, rarely accomplishes anything.
I'll happily sign a petition to get S&W to do a run of guns sans lock. I'll even use a stamp and write them a polite snail-mail letter if a campaign gets going. But the people that complain the loudest about the locks apparently won't be bothered to do any of this. If THEY don't care enough to do anything, why should anyone else care at all?
But then again, we can't even get a fraction of the members of this very board to write their congressmen about AWB II...
Nightcrawler
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Now...I'm just a sheep, mind you, so perhaps my grasp of this is sheepish at best, but...
"Voting with your wallet" only works the intended victim understands why you're not buying his products anymore.
Some Guy on the Internet (SGOTI) saying "I ain't gonna buy no Smith & Wesson no more!" accomplishes exactly nothing.
Organizing a letter writing campaign is a lot less work than trying to organize yet another internet boycott. Have you contacted Smith & Wesson and told them the lock will prevent you from buying their guns? Writing, emailing, and calling requires less organization than an effective boycott, also.
But it's much easier to say "I'm just voting with my wallet", not actually do anything, and then keep griping when nothing changes.
Write Smith & Wesson a letter. Instead of repeatedly telling me and the handfull of people who frequent the Revolver forum, tell Smith and Wesson you won't buy a gun with a lock on it, and tell them why. Get everyone you know that's just as irritated about it as you to do the same thing. Tell S&W that if they do runs of guns with no locks, then you'd be interested in them again. I'm sure a bunch of people on S&W Forum would jump on this.
If the people who are just SO ANGRY about "THE LOCK" aren't willing to make the slightest effort to tell Smith & Wesson what the problem is, then they can't turn around and complain that Smith & Wesson doesn't do what they want.
Maybe it'll work, maybe it won't. But any of the above suggestions have a hell of a lot better chance of changing Smith & Wesson's position than bombarding every revolver forum thread with bunch of "I won't buy a gun with THE LOCK" and "+1!" posts.
"Voting with your wallet" only works the intended victim understands why you're not buying his products anymore.
Some Guy on the Internet (SGOTI) saying "I ain't gonna buy no Smith & Wesson no more!" accomplishes exactly nothing.
Organizing a letter writing campaign is a lot less work than trying to organize yet another internet boycott. Have you contacted Smith & Wesson and told them the lock will prevent you from buying their guns? Writing, emailing, and calling requires less organization than an effective boycott, also.
But it's much easier to say "I'm just voting with my wallet", not actually do anything, and then keep griping when nothing changes.
Write Smith & Wesson a letter. Instead of repeatedly telling me and the handfull of people who frequent the Revolver forum, tell Smith and Wesson you won't buy a gun with a lock on it, and tell them why. Get everyone you know that's just as irritated about it as you to do the same thing. Tell S&W that if they do runs of guns with no locks, then you'd be interested in them again. I'm sure a bunch of people on S&W Forum would jump on this.
If the people who are just SO ANGRY about "THE LOCK" aren't willing to make the slightest effort to tell Smith & Wesson what the problem is, then they can't turn around and complain that Smith & Wesson doesn't do what they want.
Maybe it'll work, maybe it won't. But any of the above suggestions have a hell of a lot better chance of changing Smith & Wesson's position than bombarding every revolver forum thread with bunch of "I won't buy a gun with THE LOCK" and "+1!" posts.
I agree and think it's a good idea. But don't think for a minute that S&W has alienated the faithful and is unaware of it. They have a marketing department, and is aware that alot of fans are probably gone forever. We've already spent our money on their product. No repeat buisiness from some old schoolers - they will market to a new generation. An uninformed one. I just think they are banking on new and first time owners for the most part.
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Nightcrawler
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Oh, Correia?
MWA HA HA HAAA! SUCKER! Why do you think I sold you that 625 so cheap? That belocked SOB stole my social security number and purchased illegal conflict diamonds in my name!
MWA HA HA HAAA! SUCKER! Why do you think I sold you that 625 so cheap? That belocked SOB stole my social security number and purchased illegal conflict diamonds in my name!
Seminole
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I'll NEVER buy a gun with a lock!!!!! 
CSA 357
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I wont say never, but as of now i havent owned a smith with the key switch, maybe one day , who knows? csa
Nightcrawler,
When you calm down and get off your stump, maybe you will realize the irony in your vociferous complaining about the complainers. You seem awfully worked up over the internet. Al Gore would be most disturbed to find out his great invention is causing you so much stress and discomfort.
When you calm down and get off your stump, maybe you will realize the irony in your vociferous complaining about the complainers. You seem awfully worked up over the internet. Al Gore would be most disturbed to find out his great invention is causing you so much stress and discomfort.
Click Click Boom
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This thread didnt work.
People still cry about the lock every chance they get.
What was that about repeating the same action and expecting a different outcome and insanity.....
The Lock is still on new S&W revolvers! The I'll never buy a S&W with a lock posts are not working.
People still cry about the lock every chance they get.
What was that about repeating the same action and expecting a different outcome and insanity.....
The Lock is still on new S&W revolvers! The I'll never buy a S&W with a lock posts are not working.
MikePGS
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Nightcrawler made a pretty good point I think. If there was some sort of campaign to have S&W get rid of them instead of a bunch of random dudes complaining on forums, maybe they would stop having them. If half the people who didn't like them sent S&W a letter or signed a petition, they probably wouldn't have locks any more. But then, what would we do with all the free time we'd have?
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That may have been me, actually. Sorry about that.
Other than that, +1. (Giggle.)
Now can we get a moderator to start a humorous thread complaining about thread necromancy? And another one to complain about people who complain about thread necromancy?
TIA!
FoMoGo
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Or did they have old frames laying around and decided to use them up?
Jim
Jim
johnnylaw53
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Correia, I did not know that everytime you buy a lock smith God killed a kitten, now with that information i guess i need to do my share and go buy a few. I really don't like cats.
Be safe
Be safe
I'm not worried about the Smith and Wesson internal lock suddenly activating and rendering the revolver useless.
I'm worried about the Thread Internal Lock System suddenly activating and rendering this thread closed.
And there are documented cases of that happening!
I'm worried about the Thread Internal Lock System suddenly activating and rendering this thread closed.
And there are documented cases of that happening!
rdrancher
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So what is this lock y'all speak of?
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