I'll just say that is absolutely false. Give me 5 minutes with one.
The Russians took the best ideas for tanks and applied their own principles (making more of them cheaper and faster mostly) and used them to really drub the Germans.
FWIW I found video of an SKS converted to full auto (apparently). There's actually someone willing to video themselves shooting it and post it on Youtube. I guess prison doesn't scare some people.
you're referring to the T34/Panther then you've got it exactly backwards. The Panther was a German attempt to copy the T34,
... The trigger group is lifted from the Garand.
The round is had very similar ballistics to the 30 cal. rounds used in the M1 Carbine. I don't think all of these things can be coincidence.
Well not exactly-
But it was full auto in imitation of the German assault rifle.
beware, you're on the slippery grounds now!But the carbine wasn't a assault rifle, even in the full auto form.
But the carbine wasn't a assault rifle, even in the full auto form.
I also look at what the Russians were copying when they made those weapons. First you had the M1 with the same 10 round capacity and also fed by stripper clips. But there were other rifles coming along in the war like the M1 Carbine that was shorter, lighter and used a smaller caliber round but still had a smaller capacity mag in the 15 round detachable. I think most M1 Carbines came with the smaller mag (rather than the 30 round mag). Keep in mind that the 7.62 x 39 round was very similar in ballistics to the .30 cal. US rifles. But later in the war the Germans unleashed the Sturmgewehr and that changed the rules of rifle making again. Suddenly it was obvious that a high capacity, fast firing assault rifle (the Sturmgewehr actually translates to assault rifle) could be very effective. So the Russians set to work copying that design using the round they had already developed (the 7.62 x 39).
and before you start discussing "intermediate cartridge" and "controllable select-fire firepower", please be informed that at least two full-power, select-fire rifles were officially designated as "Sturmgewehr" - those were Austrian Stg.58 (license-built FN FAL) in 7.62x51 and Swiss Stgw.57 (a.k.a. SIG 510) in 7.5x55
The SKS was a scaled down PTRS anti tank rifle; not sure what attributes would have come from the Carbine, specifically. The concept of a low-cap handy service carbine had already been made clear through the SVT40/AVT40 platforms, which enjoyed great effect when wielded properly, but were badly overpowered and too long. Ironically, the tilting bolt concept employed by the STGW was developed decades prior and copied back and forth between all parties.And that's the Russian gun that copied some of the attributes of the M1 Carbine. The AK-47 took some ideas from the Carbine but it was more about copying the Sturmgewehr design principles. That's my story and I'm sticking to it
M2 Carbine meets every point noted for an "Assault Rifle
Quoting Max from above:The SKS was a scaled down PTRS anti tank rifle
No, it wasn'tIIRC, the SKS design was a scaled down version of a Soviet anti-tank rifle
SKS was a scaled-down version of the experimental 7.62x54R Simonov semi-auto rifle, developed in 1940-41 in competition with Tokarev SVT-40
PTRS anti-tank rifle was based on the same design, but scaled up and adapted to en-block clip rather than stripper clip loading.
Wrong againbut Kalashnikov's automat rifle to answer the StG44 was hitting some development snags, so the design of a succesful Soviet heavy semi-automatic rifle was scaled down to the 7.62x39mm as a stop-gap as the Siminov 1945 SKS