Able vs Disabled

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Well said mcwjr13. During our Folder into the Fight Drill we have students wear head gear, eye pro, and a mouth piece. For one minute they hold onto the end of two sticks with another student holding the other sides and go back and forth for a minute to get the cardio up. Then when the time keeper gives the 10 second warning and aggression wearing the same gear plus boxing gloves starts popping them about the head and shoulders (before the drill the student tells his aggressor how hard to attack him on a scale of 1-10) Even this light taps cause central nervous system disruption. Then on they have to drop the sticks and fight off their attacker and deploy their folder and cut the aggressor. This can also be done with air soft or Blue guns depending on the class. The aggressor also tries to foul the draw of the defender. The whole drill takes about a minute and a half. Students take a while to recover. The idea ammoung other things is to show the student what it feels like to be hit under controlled conditions, think about how it effects them and if it would justify deadly force against an unarmed person. Then when the attacker tries to disarm them they are reminded that if you carry weapons there are weapons in every fight you are in.- George
 
Claude Clay, Dodgeball was the game we used to take it out on each other. A bit rubber ball to the head a bit high is plenty. Legal too as long the teacher didnt see it at recess =)

I recall the first time a classmate took a punch at me. He lost temper and swung from somewhere far north of Canada. I was gone 3 steps to one side before punch blasted against the cement wall I was standing against. But a moment to decide what to do. Not so good for him better for me. I fled rather than stand about while he really went ballistic over his now ruined hand.

But one kid got me in the right eye but good, turned out he was a little scrapper from the city who gets tired when people shove him around, I got what I deserved. World goes white and stars all around for the day. But no complaints, I was the bully that day.

But seriously, you think Adults will leave the schoolyard stuff behind when they grow up, but alas,... no.

Cheers.
 
I. We have an aging society, and will continue to have an increase in older members of society.

a.
I was born in the last great decade, the 50's. Now back then we had Veterans of Wars, and Polio Victims.
We also had Widows, single moms, single ladies...physically limited, elderly...

There were no known "training schools" back then, unless one went into the Military, or into Police work.

The folks I grew up with, and I refer to Mentors & Elders, took it upon themselves to make sure folks had what they needed.
Mindset - folks had mindset.
Skill sets -many had skill sets, then again when a person comes back from war with an amputation, or blind in one eye, or limited range of motion (ROM) from injuries, these skill sets have to be accessed and something figured out for them and their ADLS (activities of daily living).

Tool sets - many hand tool sets as well.
In fact, I am going to flat come out say folks had more "tool set skills" than folks coming up today.

Folks had Software, and they could do more with a $1 pocket knife, or kitchen knife than folks coming up today. A simple cane, be it one they made, or Veterans Hospital gave them.

Guns: Folks did not have a lot of money. There was no credit cards. You saved up, did without, patched up and got by. Oh there was lay-a-way, and ledgers at the hardware store, or grocery store, but that paid off on payday.

Folks tried guns and knives others had, I mean they actually shot these guns, and whittled with knives, or tried one cleaning game, or doing electrical work or whatever.
Then they went down to the hardware store, and obtained one. Maybe they paid for it, as they had saved up. Some did lay-a-way, others did that ledger.

Why in the hell does nobody today thinks of our aging society is beyond me.

Everything is geared for a 25 year old stropping male, full of piss-n-vinegar.

In the blink of an eye, anyone, including this piss-n-vinegar male, with tactical guns, knives and martial arts skill can be physically limited.

They will be in worse shape than some 5'1" female that weighs 110 pounds sopping wet. That 80 year old grandma, with arthritis and brown spots and if she weighs 90 pounds sopping wet, it would surprise me. In worse shape than a 65 year old male that has had bypass surgery and hip replacement.

I know, I have seen it all my life, and I really got to see it when I worked in the Main OR of a hospital.
An 18 year old male, with martial arts skills, can become paralyzed from slipping on a football program at a ball game and taking a header down the bleachers.

Going from Able to Disabled can occur in the blink of an eye. This is what irks me to no end.
I have no problem with folks getting training , I have one hell of a problem with what some of us call - Students need a Guru & Gurus need Students..

I have a serious problem when I hear/read of everyone putting stock in Hardware, these guns, and knives and whatever the heck else "one gotta have".
Bull Chip!

I have seen too many cows, put down with a snub nose .38spl, using standard pressure, 158 gr loads, of Lead Round Nose, and Lead Semi Wadcutter.
Heck, I have done it, and the last time I did it was with a Colt Detective Special made in 1928 or 1929.

Don't tell me a hickory axe handle, cracked, and with electrical tape, will not get a bull, cow, mangy dawg suspected of having rabies, rabid raccoon, ...etc, to stop doing what they are doing.

It for damn sure will get a young fella that got loose from a work detail on a chain gang to sit his butt down on the porch and wait for Corrections Officers and Sheriff Deputies to come fetch 'em.
Young punk did not make light of a single shot .410 or that hardware store H&R .22 snub nose revolver the old couple had in had either.
Granted he really did not like the looks of that hickory axe handle...he for sure did not want to get hit with it again.

Old folks, with Mindset, Skill sets and Tool sets.
Not in the best of health, aches, pains, limited ROM and everything else.
But - they had Strategy & Tactics, and they had been married so long, they just worked as a team without even having to think about it.

Force on Force is great!
Still you take some of our aging society and they cannot. Folks with Osteo Arthritis so bad, they no longer can drive. Doctors orders. The fear is shutting a car door, or trunk and breaking a back.
My aunt, with Osteo, stepped out of bed one morning and broke her foot.


b. "Hands registered as a deadly weapon"
Coming up and for years we used to hear of this all the time.
It was in magazines, on TV shows, in the Movies.

Oh how the boys took up boxing and karate so they could be so bad-boy and cool, and get their hands registered as "deadly weapons".

Wanna be's. Oh yeah, it was a big deal to hear the boys carrying on around girls about "I can't get into a fight, my hands are registered as deadly weapons".
Face full of pimples, and they would not know a right cross from a weather vane, but they had the talk all right.

Get a group of boys dressing as they would, maybe toss some boxing gloves in a car, or get a "karate" uniform or "belt" ( hey the fabric store got stuff close enough) in a vehicle...
Hit the downtown areas, and later when outdoor malls, and even when indoor malls come to be.
Yep, sure enough even in the early days, little hints of "boxing" and "karate", and struttin' around to impress folks at the mall.

Yeah , well, maybe so. That old man would still kick his butt with his Rexall Drug Store cane.
The young man back from 'Nam, and missing an arm below the elbow, and blind in one eye would take 'em down before they knew what hit 'em.
Cocked & Locked bone stock 1911 with hardball...
Buck 110, and he knew how to do the "pop" and get that knife out.
Charlie...he learned some bad stuff from Charlie and using a knife...

Software...

It does not matter if someone has hands "registered" as "deadly weapons" or not.
One punch:
-The person with a detached retina may lose sight in that eye.
-The person that has had neck surgery, back surgery, may become paralyzed.
-The person just getting back on their feet, literally, from hip surgery, may suffer all sorts of serious repercussions.
-The 5' 1" young lady that weighs 110 pounds, may be knocked out cold and when she comes too, realized she had been raped.

Disparity...yeah.
One would hope the first responders would read the room...
would hope they would find witnesses , and would hope a judge or worst case jury would have some common sense.
One would hope the politics and societal attitudes of self defense applies and not submit as the gov't gonna take care of you..

Yes, one should do what they can when younger, as Mindset, SKillsets are necessary to build a solid foundation upon which can later "transition" to other Toolsets.
Terms and acronyms, make for easy commications of ideas and methods when discussing matters.
Not for being a wanna be.

Hey...These terms and acronyms are not a new thing. No more than some have recently discovered Robert Johnson, Chet Atkins, Chuck Berry, Duane Allman, or The Rolling Stones.

"Ten, Two & 4 "
is not just the ad campaign Dr. Pepper used back in the day.
It is a self defense strategy and tactic.
Back then- Lessons (instruction/training) and Set Ups (stages, force on force) was done as well.

Royal Crown or RC for short is another one.
Uncola is yet another.
Moon-Pie.

So the whippersnappers only think of a Grandpa, referring to a RC and a Moon Pie as a soft drink and something to eat.

Not always, as Grandpa was raised right, and he remembers the aging society, the Veterans, and others passing forward how to stay safe and he learned as a brat some things.

Things to keep him from getting punched in the face.

Oh, never think a old woman putting Peanuts in her Coke is easy prey either.

Ah, the good old days...
Discussing staying safe and the old RC & Moon Pie vs Peanuts in Coke discussions.


*snicker

Fifteen cents for this, they call a hamburger, this ain't a hamburger! And what do they mean by "golden arches" in that advertising! Let me you show you arches, mine ain't golden, they done fallen, but I can make a hamburger, a real honest to goodness hamburger...! World is going to hell in a hand basket, I tell ya...
Female Mentor. About so tall, and she had to jump around in shower to get wet.
 
One always learns from those they assist.
Always.

Go assist someone that is recovering from a detached retina, neck surgery, back surgery, hip surgery...
Get with someone, and be damn respectful about it, that has an amputation, or is limited in any way.

True.
I am whole...
I get into a wheelchair, and ride the lift to get inside a handcapped equipped van a physically limited person actually uses.

I mean if I am going to assist, I might as well put myself in their "limits" best can.
Let me tell you, you feel real damn vulnerable, on that lift. That is a prime time for evil to take you down.

Yes boys and girls, only I could miss the stupid mattresses and mats when I fell off that damn lift, after being tumped out of a wheelchair.

"Do I at least get style points in the way I fell? I asked.
"No, you actually sucked big time if you want to know the truth" all these persons, including physically limited replied.

Now I am on the ground. Since I am there...
I get a lady 25 years old, that fell down at age 19 and has not walked since...
I get a 'Nam vet, with no legs...

I was there to assist them, instead, I was the one learning.
The "girl" was showing me some serious FoF.
She had long hair with this hair thingy and that hair thingy ...hurts!


Don't tell me a 'Nam Vet that lost his legs cannot fight on the ground either.
The small newspaper, like free want ads, rolled up and up under my chin...

Now I had been exposed to how these folks have a willingness to survive.
Still, I am going to be the VCA ( violent criminal actor).

Now we sorta have our own rules which some would get the weebie jeebies about...
So I get this gal out of her wheechair and down, I mean I have her but good with my long legs...
That water pistol, small, with electrical tape on a lanyard was at my eye and she went "bang".

Me: Where did get that?
Her: You, you idiot!

Where are your hands?
I had her down and one hand going where it should not and the other on her throat ( I was being a rapist btw) and ...in real life, she carries a NAA Mini Revolver, with the factory lanyard around her neck.
Yes, I was the one that shared that with her...
Why I never thought she would have a small plastic water pistol to replicate this, during our lessons and set ups is beyond me.

She had nothing in either leg, she does have the ability to move her feet and toes.

This 'Nam Vet. He don't look it, but he has some serious upper body strength.
Not to mention being quick, agile, and he had one heck of a grip. I do as well, but his is more developed than mine.

A 70 year old lady, that uses a walker, with the tennis balls on two legs.
Forget a cane master cane!
That gal will hurt you with that walker.
Get her down and she will trip you up in that walker!

I wanted to cry, I watched these 3 have a race, as to whom could "scoot and move" on the ground.

Tactic...get under the van if need, where evil had to get down and reach for you...
One tactic anyways...

The lady with the walker, can use a shopping buggy, some.
A shopping buggy is a serious defensive tool, trust me. I was the idiot being defended against by a shopping buggy. Oh, she is pretty fast with revolver too.


I had one young lady that wanted to learn shotguns. Only problem was...she had a detached retina, and recovering from shoulder and knee surgery.
Needless to say there was No Recoil Orders for some time.
Still, we did lessons...getting the correct basic fundamentals down.

I learned a lot from this young lady too.
You "limit" yourself as this young lady was, and see how life is from her perspective.
I did, best could.


Re: 10,2 & 4, The Dr. Pepper Ad.
This is nothing more that what the old old black and white Army training movies showed.

Look at yourself in the mirror and think of 10, 2 and 4 postions of a clock.
Rolled up magazine, Soda bottle, old chrome flashlight, $1 pocket knife...
Now the opponent "may" start out face on ( flat) but nothing stays stationary or flat.

10 might be the hand being knocked down coming at you,
2 going on up the arm...
4, hard thrust to COM.

RC & Moon Pie: glass bottle up and under chin/ or straight to Adams Apple.
[hold the bottle by the base and hit with the top skinny part]
If the VCA comes forward, knee to face.
The nose /face looks like a smushed "moon pie".

Peanuts-n-Coke.
Toss peanuts to distract and again holding the base of the bottle use the top to inflict damage.

Un-Cola...Drop the damn glass bottle, draw and fire.
VCA's eyes "hopefully" will follow the bottle being dropped, and the glass breaking "hopefully" throw them off their loop for a split second.
Maybe even attracting attention from others, witnesses.

My variation, mentors liked , was going in with the bottle to deflect, or inflict while drawing and firing.
This works just fine with a 20 oz plastic bottle of water or soft drink btw.

This works on ones feet, sitting or on the ground.

The lady in a wheelchair "poked" me hard in the chest with a USB storage drive, and my reaction gave her time to draw and fire from IWB with a snub nose revolver. ( water pistol again)

'Nam Vet, used a coffee cup and he too was able to draw and fire his CCW. ( water pistol ).


It ain't what you got, instead knowing how to run what ya brung

Software is the key again.
No matter is one is Able or Disabled.
 
Great stuff, sm.
If reasoning fails and you can't run away, the rule for fighting is: never hit a man with your fist if something harder is available.
 
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