Reefinmike
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My brother accidentally shot my gun inside. Wow, that got my attention quick.
To set the stage- my brother knows very well proper gun safety(so i thought), how to load, unload and operate any firearm. He has had firearms for as long as i. Tho he doesnt own as many guns as i do and rarely goes shooting. He also knows i always keep my guns loaded(with the exception of bolt actions or striker fire, not being able to physically see the hammer scares the poop out of me. Also, i never have any little kids over and the only person that ever goes upstairs(where i keep my guns) is my brother.
Starts off, brother comes over to hang out because its 102 degrees out and way too hot to go work outside. Go upstairs because he wanted to track down my cat and play with my dog. I had my taurus tcp(380) sitting on my desk pointing left towards an exterior wall with a pile of fresh 380's i had just cast last night. As i turned my back and walked out the door, i heard a boom! For a second i had absolutely no idea what happened, next second thought maybe somehow he set off a loose primer or something? We each counted our fingers and toes and checked on the animals. I grabbed the gun and made it safe as well as my other two pistols in my night stand assuming i was going to get a knock on the door real soon.
The gun fired sitting on the desk, the bullet(fortunatly) hit one of the cast bullets laying in a pile which i didnt realize til later when my brother pointed out that the bullet keyholed in the wall. It went through the drywall, through the bat insullation, through some exterior ply. I believe after the ply is some old vertical pressboard siding type material and then vinyl siding. Im just glad it didnt go all the way through and possibly injure someone.
I really really wish i knew how it happened as the little gun has been my favorite carry gun since i got my ccw liscence two months ago. Now i dont even want to look at the thing. My brother has only seen and handled the gun once(yesterday), he asked about the safety to which i replied, no need, feel the trigger pull. He is always griping at me " why would you carry a loaded gun over to my house, here there" etc etc. Not like a "get that baby and cop killing heatseeking destroyer out of my house" but more like he doesnt understand why i carry 24/7 to which i tell him that if i didnt, the one time id need it, i wouldnt have it.
From what i was able to gather from him which was expectedly very foggy because of the big boom, was that he hadnt even picked the gun up, he was about to with his thumb on the backstrap and stupidly put his finger on the trigger. He said without 100% certainty that he had just barely touched the trigger. What i believe happened is he probably thought he had his finger on the trigger gaurd and squeezed as he picked it up. The trigger on the tcp is very hard to accidentally pull. Even if the hammer was somehow snagged back by something near the breaking point, there is a very long trigger pull before the hammer is released. Maybe he had a dumb lapse in judgement and thought it wasnt loaded as there was an extra empty mag sitting right next to it.
Im just a little freaked out that a gun i had trusted all this time went off by supposedly just barely touching the trigger. I only carry guns that i am absolutely positive that you really have to mean to pull the trigger for it to go off. I dont like safeties. Ill only carry a double action only or double action first shot, sa after. Up until thursday, the gun has operated 100% with the exception of it locking back with one in the mag a couple times. Two things happened thursday- i had two light strikes(1st ones on 500+reloads) which i believe i can attribute to to tight of a taper crimp and improper seating depth(just got calipers). And then i had an issue where something must have gritted up the slide losk and kept it firmly up.
What are your thoughts. Is some mechanical failure of the tcp design possible to allow the hammer to drop(either from its resting position or do the full swing) by simply touching the trigger? Also, the casing i found(federal hydrashok) seems to have a fairly light strike
To set the stage- my brother knows very well proper gun safety(so i thought), how to load, unload and operate any firearm. He has had firearms for as long as i. Tho he doesnt own as many guns as i do and rarely goes shooting. He also knows i always keep my guns loaded(with the exception of bolt actions or striker fire, not being able to physically see the hammer scares the poop out of me. Also, i never have any little kids over and the only person that ever goes upstairs(where i keep my guns) is my brother.
Starts off, brother comes over to hang out because its 102 degrees out and way too hot to go work outside. Go upstairs because he wanted to track down my cat and play with my dog. I had my taurus tcp(380) sitting on my desk pointing left towards an exterior wall with a pile of fresh 380's i had just cast last night. As i turned my back and walked out the door, i heard a boom! For a second i had absolutely no idea what happened, next second thought maybe somehow he set off a loose primer or something? We each counted our fingers and toes and checked on the animals. I grabbed the gun and made it safe as well as my other two pistols in my night stand assuming i was going to get a knock on the door real soon.
The gun fired sitting on the desk, the bullet(fortunatly) hit one of the cast bullets laying in a pile which i didnt realize til later when my brother pointed out that the bullet keyholed in the wall. It went through the drywall, through the bat insullation, through some exterior ply. I believe after the ply is some old vertical pressboard siding type material and then vinyl siding. Im just glad it didnt go all the way through and possibly injure someone.
I really really wish i knew how it happened as the little gun has been my favorite carry gun since i got my ccw liscence two months ago. Now i dont even want to look at the thing. My brother has only seen and handled the gun once(yesterday), he asked about the safety to which i replied, no need, feel the trigger pull. He is always griping at me " why would you carry a loaded gun over to my house, here there" etc etc. Not like a "get that baby and cop killing heatseeking destroyer out of my house" but more like he doesnt understand why i carry 24/7 to which i tell him that if i didnt, the one time id need it, i wouldnt have it.
From what i was able to gather from him which was expectedly very foggy because of the big boom, was that he hadnt even picked the gun up, he was about to with his thumb on the backstrap and stupidly put his finger on the trigger. He said without 100% certainty that he had just barely touched the trigger. What i believe happened is he probably thought he had his finger on the trigger gaurd and squeezed as he picked it up. The trigger on the tcp is very hard to accidentally pull. Even if the hammer was somehow snagged back by something near the breaking point, there is a very long trigger pull before the hammer is released. Maybe he had a dumb lapse in judgement and thought it wasnt loaded as there was an extra empty mag sitting right next to it.
Im just a little freaked out that a gun i had trusted all this time went off by supposedly just barely touching the trigger. I only carry guns that i am absolutely positive that you really have to mean to pull the trigger for it to go off. I dont like safeties. Ill only carry a double action only or double action first shot, sa after. Up until thursday, the gun has operated 100% with the exception of it locking back with one in the mag a couple times. Two things happened thursday- i had two light strikes(1st ones on 500+reloads) which i believe i can attribute to to tight of a taper crimp and improper seating depth(just got calipers). And then i had an issue where something must have gritted up the slide losk and kept it firmly up.
What are your thoughts. Is some mechanical failure of the tcp design possible to allow the hammer to drop(either from its resting position or do the full swing) by simply touching the trigger? Also, the casing i found(federal hydrashok) seems to have a fairly light strike