Affordable Pellet Pistol to Improve Marksmanship?

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Any suggestions for an accurate pellet pistol in the sub $100 range? I just want it for target shooting and plinking, no hunting or anything else.

I've been looking at the Crosman 1377 and it looks like it might be perfect. Any other suggestions or experiences with the 1377?

Also, I realize this might not be the best airgun forum, so if anyone can point me to a good one that'd be great too.
 
The "Airsoft" pistols are designed to help shooters train for accuracy.

Buy one in the style of your carry gun.

TK
 
Target shooting? I guess that depends on the target. I have an ancient Crossman like you want and it does shoot fair. It however does not feel like any handgunI own.

I used a real junker for a bit when I was interested in action type shooting where the targets were the old NRA tombstones or IPSC Florida EIghts. I used one of the old Marksman BB pistols to get used to getting the gun up and on target. It was not accurate enough for practicing NRA bullseye and the trigger pull was horrific, but its grip was shaped like my "real pistol" and it helped me point and get a quick flash sight picture and get a round off and on cardboard. I see to recall the thing cost less than a box of 50 .45ACP rounds and I have no idea how many hundereds of BBs went into a stop box made of an old cardboard box and some old carpet strips and got reused over the three years or so I used it. It seemed to pay off on the firing line with the .45 in action/IPSC style shooting.

I think even smooth bore guns firing BBs like that can be a big help for transitioning to firearms. WHile accuracy is no where near a quality pellet pistol it is good enough. I even like the current crop of CO2 bb pistols as many are semi automatic and so not as boring for most folks who seem to get tired of cocking and loading single rounds for each shot. SOme feel such guns encourage burst shooting of rapid fire to "make Up for" their lack of "real accuracy". I find that if I want to shoot slow and deliberate I can and if I want to develop the skills needed to engage multiple targets quick ly they work fine. Again the triggers are not very good BUT if you can handle those triggers then triggers on firearms are going to be a snap. FOr plinking what can be more fun than chasing an old soda can with 5 to 12 shots as fast as you can line up the sights and pull the trigger? The down side is the need to by CO2 cartridges and the fact they they do not store pierced in the pistols reliably. One of my gun forinstance has held pressure for three weeks on one cartridge, then bled out over night on the next then lasted several days wit the next then over night for the next couple and then well you get the idea.

As a kid a Daisy CO2 200 was a constant companion. WHen I "upgraded " to a RUger RST-4 .22 semiauto in my teens wonder of wonders I shot pretty well with that gun that had a similar shape to the CO2 200 and remarkably after using those two guns for ages which happened to be the guns the army recomended for pre training for the M1911A1 I pretty much picked up a M1911 A1 with out slowing down.

I do think that the gun you are looking at will basically last as long as you take care of it and assuming you get a rifled one that shoots only pellets then it will likely be more accurate than most folks can shoot a pistol so there is nothing wrong with your original choice, but I thought I would throw these thoughts out there.

Shoot safe, shoot legal, and have fun.

-kBob
 
Any decent air gun will be of good use in indoor or backyard practice. The holy trinity of sight picture, breath control and trigger squeeze does not change from firearm to air gun.

In bad weather, I use a Webley Tempast in the basement to practice, and it works. I've taught all my kids when they were young, how to shoot with an air gun, and then came the grandkids. They made the transition from Crossman air rifles to firearms with .22 rifles with almost no lag time.

Marksmenship is still marksmanship.

Carl.
 
I've got the Crosman 1377 - it's extremely accurate and on the upper end of velocity (for pistols) from what I can see. It is slow to pump and shoot, but the reward is great accuracy.

I've shot a friends BB gun, a "magazine" fed CO2 powered M&P clone (I think by Umarex), and it was accurate enough to make popping cans enjoyable. I've thought about getting one myself for backyard fun.
 
I'd say depends on some criteria. I own a variety of pellet handguns and they all have their purposes. Here is how I use them:

-Crosman 1377 is used like a take-down carbine. I added a removable stock and scope (that is designed for airguns). It is single shot and you have to pump it several times. But it's highly accurate and highly customizable. It is not analogous to any real handgun though.

-Marksman 2004 (virtually the same as a Beeman P17). Single shot single-stroke pneumatic. Faster to recock than the 1377, due to single stroke. Also makes very little noise (the pellet impact is louder). Quite accurate, shaped more like a real gun. Note that many formal pellet pistol target competitions use this style of gun.

-Walther P99 Compact. Clip-fed CO2 BB gun. Shaped just like the real life counterpart firearm, even has a working slide. This is a semi-auto gun so it's great fun to shoot several targets in a row. This is the most convenience to shoot since it's multi-shot, bu probably the least accurate. If you're not competing in airgun tournaments though, still a great gun to practice with for specific skillsets.
 
Is your sport bullseye or combat shooting?

Are you trying to improve your bullseye scores with slow aimed shots at small targets or do you want to be able to hit multiple close range targets very rapidly? In action shooting sports the target is about the size of a dinner plate and never very far away. You just have to be able to hit a serise of them very fast. For that you need a CO2 BB repeater. If you intend to shoot at small things that are far away a good single shot pump pellet pistol will do fine.
 
Thanks for all the replies guys.

I actually have some airsoft and pellet repeaters already. What I'm looking for though is something more for bullseye type shooting. I really want to practice the shooting fundamentals and I need a more accurate gun to know if I'm improving or not. My Red Ryder isn't accurate enough to know if its me or the gun.

Also, I plan on using lead-free ammo if that matters. As an aside, does anyone know what leadless pellets are made of? Guessing tin or copper alloy, but not sure.
 
You probably want to use a single-shot gun then, especially since they can take atypical shaped ammo. Many types of Leadless pellet have odd shapes, but many are designed for precision target shooting (where wounding is unimportant). The composition varies by brand and type. Some even are part plastic.

I think you should go with a Spring-Piston or Single-Stroke Pneumatic design you want consistency with each shot.

The IZH 53M is a Spring-Piston design, made by a company that makes many high-end competition-grade air guns.

Beeman P17 that I mentioned before is also good for this, though it is a bit cheap. If you want to put a bit more cash up, the Daisy Avanti Triumph line are also very good target pistols.
 
Lead free pellets may have improved lately, but the last time I really looked at them, folks were still unhappy with their accuracy as well as some other issues they have that lead pellets don't. Most of the metal lead-free pellets are made of tin.

The 1377 is very accurate, but the out of the box trigger can be daunting. It's not that difficult to improve it though. The sights aren't that great, at least they aren't on mine--they may have improved them since I bought mine.

If you can stand paying around $200, you might look into the Gamo Compact Target Pistol. It seems to get good review.
 
What I'm looking for though is something more for bullseye type shooting.
I've been using a Daisy 747, single stroke pneumatic with adjustable sights for my indoor target practice for years. Nice, competative-style pellet pistol.

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EDIT: Ooops! I missed the "affordable" qualifier in the OP. The 747 currently retails for around $175-200, which probably puts it out of your price range.
 
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Wow! I didn't realize the Predom Lucznik's were so valuable now. I think I paid like $29 for mine in 2007.

The Daisy and Crosmans are nice pistols as well, nicer probably than the Predom.

There is a Marksman single shot pellet pistol that Walmart and Cabelas sell for less than $50. They are a Chinese knockoff of a Beeman design and are pretty good.

OP- See your IM.
 
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The Crossman 1377 is a good value - accurate, hits hard if you need it to, and not expensive. I'm sure it could be improved, but then it would cost more money. I like mine.
 
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