Aimpoint Micro Wow!

[amprecon]

I finally broke down and bought an Aimpoint Micro H-1 micro-dot for the SLR-95 to replace the larger CompC3 I had mounted on the Ultimak rail. This a neat little red dot sight, if it's as durable as the regular sized red dots it's going to be very hard to beat and well worth the money.
This has to be the best setup going for the AK, I've seen some crazy looking setups using modified covers and the side mounts and they all look bulky and appear to add alot of weight.
I was worried about the dot being 4moa, but for the AK I don't think this will be a handicap at all.
I have yet to take it to the range and run it through it's paces, but if it's anything like the CompC3 I'm sure it'll perform just as good.

 

[ChristopherG]

I'm curious about the rage for the T1 micro. Having had a full size Aimpoint, how do you think they compare? What does the micro give you that's better than its bigger brother?

Thanks--and, good looking setup.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

I have 4 micros on various guns (Marlin 1895 .45-70, 2 223 AR15s, 1 .22 lr). What they give you over the larger versions is smaller size and less weight. What you give up may be some field of view and a 4 MOA dot (instead of a 2 MOA dot on some of the larger versions). The field of view issue can be offset quite a bit by mounting the optic as close to the shooter's eye as possible. The closer the optic, the larger the field of view.

Here is an image of one of my AR15s used for hunting with the Aimpoint Micro and a NV scope. The hog was shot last night. The T-1 version also has IR reticle settings for use with night vision gear.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

I run a T-1 micro on an offset mount on my AR and love it. The best thing about it is it has all the performance of some of the bigger Aimpoints (50,000 hours of battery life on a daylight visible setting) but weighs only 5oz including the Larue mount.

However, some people who look through the tube instead of shooting both eyes open find the field of view uncomfortable. Since I keep both eyes open, I don't even notice it and actually like that the sight body is less obtrusive.

 

[Coronach]

It is smaller and lighter. That's the main advantage, and when mounting it out in front on a mount like the Ultimak, it makes a huge difference. I had a compM2 out there before, and the rifle was just nose-heavy. The Micro makes a huge difference.

Mike

 

[ChristopherG]

Good deal. I'm gearing up to replace my issued patrol AR (an A2M4gery) with a flat-top--probably this one, if S&W ever actually gets it to distributors.

I'm thinking it will end up with a co-witnessed Aimpoint of one flavor or another, and appreciate the opinions and experiences--both the OP's and responders.

 

[fireside44]

Is there a Micro available in something smaller than 4 moa?

 

[Barker45]

I use the H1 on a LaRue mount for my work M4 and the H1 on my Bulgarian AK on an ultimak rail (my fun gun). The micro is AWESOME!!!! The 4moa is NO less accurate than a 2moa when you dial-down the intensity or zero the rifle using the top of the dot. I find my 4moa T1 just as accurate as as my 1moa EOTEC but better in many ways (smaller, lighter, tougher, keeps a better zero, and a crazy battery life of 5yrs constant on). The 4 moa is a non-issue. I have used it out to 400meters (without a magnifier) with very good results.
AIMPOINT rocks!
AMPERCON: Please let me know if you want to sell your Comp3.

 

[rangerruck]

to sound a bit dumb; what is that in front of the aimpoint? give us some details, and the mount with which it is attached?

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Is there a Micro available in something smaller than 4 moa?

Nope, but that should be sufficient for most folks out to 100 yards for most defensive and some hunting situations and still good to 200 for torso shots. In one respect, the larger MOA dot is better because your shot will be inside the dot at longer distances. I sight in mine with shots at the top of the dot for short range and therefore get more range with the dot itself, the impact being lower in the dot at longer range.

I know, a 1 or 2 MOA would probably be nice for many folks, but quite honestly at the distances it would be most useful, beyond a couple hundred yards, folks like me are needing a magnified optic.

 

[Justin]

The Aimpoint Micro is a great scope. I've got one on a 16 in. AR and the last time I took it out, I had no trouble going one for one on an MGM Colt Auto Popper at 200 yards.

 

[Geno]

Double Naught Spy:

You scared me! I thought that was Hannibal Lecter!

Geno

 

[taliv]

i'm also a big fan of the micro t1. i've had mine long enough to replace a battery. still love it.

 

[geojap]

This has to be the best setup going for the AK

I agree. If you don't have a side rail, the Ultimak and Aimpoint is a phenomenal sight system Co-witnessing is very easy to do and the scope is rock solid. I have a CompC3 with an Ultimak rail on my Saiga .223 and it's the bees knees.

 

[geojap]

amprecon, is that a Specter sling I see on your SLR-95?

 

[Coronach]

I would say better, yes. I had a CompM2 out there in the exact same setup, and I didn't like it as much. Mainly, it was the weight, but the body occluded a fair amoint of your FOV, too. The Micro has a smaller lens, but it makes up for this with the fact that the body is so small, too. Shoot it with both eyes open and its like a ghost ring- lightning fast.

Don't get me wrong, the full-size aimpoints will work fine, too. I just like the Micro better in that role.

Mike

 

[geojap]

Thanks Coronach. I edited my post because I didn't want to sound contrary, but it's good to see the Micro is a very good scope with obvious benefits.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

You scared me! I thought that was Hannibal Lecter!

Same idea. It keeps me from being able to bite the hogs.

 

[Barker45]

Let me say this another way: A 4MOA RED DOT OPTIC DOES NOT EQUAL A SHOT GROUP OF 4 INCHES AT 100 METERS out of a MOA capable rifle! The 4MOA micro is just as capable of accurate groups as a 1MOA red dot optic. Besides, who is checking shot groups on a dead deer or an aggressive biped! If you are in search of a sniper scope, do not buy a red dot optic but some sort of a magnified optic. If you want an accurate, reliable, and dependable comabt optic to put on your fighting or hunting rifle that will put your shots on target at CQB to mid-ranges (400 meters), get an aimpoint or an eotech and don't sweat what the MOA says on the box! If you are looking to build a SPR AR, it's a different story. Just my $0.02.

 

[amprecon]

I can hardly tell the difference between the 2moa and 4moa dot sizes. The size of the micro was the definitive factor in going with it though. I had the CompC3 on it and although it's not that heavy, it is large and bulky and way out there on the Ultimak rail. The Micro sits quite a bit farther back, actually up against the aft sight block and is closer to the center of the rifle.
Looking through the Micro I don't really notice the size of the body as I look through it with both eyes open and the same principle applies as with the larger bodied ones, it's just the dot on the target.
I'd have probably bought the micro when I bought the CompC3, but as the CompC3's were about $130 less, the funds didn't allow for it at the time.
The "other" thingy hanging off the rifle in the pic is a TLR-1 light on a Daniels Defense offset mount, it was about half the cost of the GG&G offset light mount.
The sling is a 3-point sling I bought from Blackhawk, I'm not sure if it was called the Specter or not.
I just recently ordered a RRA LAR-6.8 Mid-Length A4 and plan to mount the CompC3 on it so sorry, it's not for sale.

 

[averius]

I am new to the forum and am looking for some advice on which set of red dots/optics woudl make sense on an arsenal sGL 21-76 (7.62X39 cal) with picatiny rails and an LWRC PSd (5.56 cal) that I have recently bought. I have about $900 max to spend and am looking for one set of red dots with magnifier that can be used on both rifles. Originally I was thinking of the eotech 557.g23 when I had only the LWRC AR rifle but now that I bought the saiga SGL 21, I would like to get a magnifier and an optic that cna be used on either of the rifles. I woudl appreciate any advice.

Also, I would like to start hunting here in Florida. We, like many other states, have a prohibition against the use of semi auto rifles with mag capacity exceeding 5 rounds. However, I am not sure what this means exactly. For example, the arsenal saiga SGL 21-76 that I just bought comes with a 5 rounds mag, but I am pretty sure that I cna put a 30 roudn mag on it as well....can anyone tell me whether I can elgally hunt with this saiga if I am using a 5 round mag???

 

[amprecon]

Well, I am an Aimpoint fan and can only recommend them as they are the only red dot sight I have any experience with at all. I researched the others and physically checked out the few I finally decided on and the Aimpoints won out for me.
I would say that the "normal" sized Aimpoints would be ok on the AR rifles as they are centered over the balance point of the rife, but as I have the Ultimak tube/rail on the AK, any red dot sight will sit way forward, this is where the micro shines as it's diminutive size makes it almost unnoticeable compared to it's larger counterparts.
I am interested in a magnifier in the future also, but not on the AK, it would be for the 6.8 AR.

 

[averius]

My SGL 21-76 has a picatiny rail over teh barrell similar to your Ultimal tube/rail...I have never used an optic that far away from the receiver and am wodering how it would feel to be looking into a red dot almost a foot if not more away from where I am used to seeing the scope...is it easy to see the red dot??

What type of a 6.8 Ar do you have? i was thinking of getting another LWRc in that caliber, but they cost a bloody fortune and the ammo appears to be on the expensive side as well. What do you think of the 6.8 cal round?

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Let me say this another way: A 4MOA RED DOT OPTIC DOES NOT EQUAL A SHOT GROUP OF 4 INCHES AT 100 METERS out of a MOA capable rifle! The 4MOA micro is just as capable of accurate groups as a 1MOA red dot optic.

Yes and No. The accuracy of the gun does not change with the type of sights, but the ability to precisely aim in the exact same spot can be affected.

 

[amprecon]

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