AK-47

[highpower]

I have two AK47's, somehow they both have turned out to be Yugos. For the money I think they are the best deal out there. Unless you are going full auto, or are shooting up a bunch of old corrosive ammo and are too lazy to clean your rifle, the non chrome lined barrel will make no real difference.

Get an N-PAP and use the difference in price to buy ammo.

 

[yzguy87]

Not on topic but, ^^^^nice underfolder

 

[DPris]

The NPAP with provision for an optic mount & the blonde wood uses a higher stock angle to mate with a higher optic.

Used without an optic, only the iron sights, the higher stock causes some notable cheek-smack.

If you go that route, also note those guns don't use a standard AK stock attachment.
For best results, figure on using an optic, gets the cheek up higher on the wood.
Denis

 

[Giterboosted]

As someone else mentioned the m&m m10 is a fantastic gun and can be had in a few different trims depending on if you want rails or whatnot. Bought mine a couple years ago for somewhere just under 6, I think they're still at 650 or so and at that price I'm sitting here wondering why I haven't bought another one

 

[InkEd]

Arsenal is the only way to go in my opinion.

 

[irishpunk]

Great link...thanks!

 

[irishpunk]

Thank you!

 

[irishpunk]

Thanks for the reply, but I do already own an AR rifle. Just looking to cover all of my bases with the addition of an AK.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I was lucky enough to find a nice WASR 10 before all the craziness started for only $350 but for that $350 I for a lot. The rifle came with a mag carry pouch, 2X 30 round mags, a cleaning kit, a bayonet with sheath and frog plus a sling. Soon after they started taking things away until finally the gun came with only 1 magazine and nothing else.

I changed out the grip for one that came off a Chinese AK and added a red dot sight. This is a fun gun to shoot and it will do the job it was made to do...
It's not all that bad for a WASR 10 which is supposed to be junk, I don't think it's junk at all although I would love to have an original Russian milled receiver! lol


Here it is out of the box:



That's a 40 round mag I picked up.



Here it is the the Chinese vertical grip and the red dot sight:






As you can see I changed the original slanted break to an AR style flash hider.
If you see something a little funny on the front sight, that would be the East German night sight:

 

[jehu]

Sorry to tell you bud but that is not a Chicom grip, it's a Combloc grip, eastern european.

 

[itsa pain]

Add properly inspected WASR 10 and 10/63 to this and the thread's over


OP---with any AK variant out there you want to inspect it prior to purchasing (or signing for it at the gun shop if ordered online). Here's a quick guide I made about inspecting WASRs but it applies to all AK variants:

You made way to much sense with your well done video and commentary. There are guys that think you have to pay from 1000-2000+ to get a good AK or scope etc. You can never convince them otherwise with research testing and logic if you can believe that

 

[Rudedog]

I bought a Century Arms WASR 10 before the current Commander in Chief (chosen one) took office.
I bought it with 2 magazines, bayonet, sling and cleaning kit for $400.
This was when the WASR had a bad rep. I inspected it for the flaws the people talked about, found none and bought it. It is accurate and reliable and have never regretted the buy. I still have it and would not hesitate to use it in "House Land" defense.

 

[dvdcrr]

Wasr's, romaks, cur, sar etc are not crap or junk. They have decent accuracy. You just need to check for front sight cant, and might have a little trigger slap. They wont be as "clean" as a high dollar ak but most will shoot right along with them. The only ak I avoid is a US build. I know some of these are fine but there have also been instances of poor build quality.

 

[MartinS]

The SAR 1 and SAR 2 we shoot have been flawless in function and seem to do all that a
Kalashnikov is supposed to do, in semi auto.

 

[Ignition Override]

A very seasoned shooter in a free stance from 200-300 yards hits a steel gong with his AK: ""Brandon401401" does so on his Youtube channel. If you don't want to watch him shoot, you Will want to watch his wife.

How many people can do that in a free stance with no other support for this type of rifle?

 

[dook]

The NPAP with provision for an optic mount & the blonde wood uses a higher stock angle to mate with a higher optic.

Used without an optic, only the iron sights, the higher stock causes some notable cheek-smack.

Thanks for that useful information DPris. IMO, a Tech-Sights aperture rear sight is the best addition to an AK47. It shrank my groups to half and hardly adds any weight or bulk.

 

[Willie Sutton]

"How many people can do that in a free stance with no other support for this type of rifle? "


Anyone who tries 100 times and only shows one video and discards the other 99?

Really, if you have any marksmanship background, it's a routine event.



Willie

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[highpower]

How many people can do that in a free stance with no other support for this type of rifle?

Not real sure if I can do it with a AK as I have never tried it with one. I can hit a steel gong roughly 8-9 times out of ten with my M1A at 400 yards offhand. I was at the range a couple of years ago shooting my 1873 Trapdoor Springfield at the same 400 yard gong and hitting it about 5 out of ten times, but there was a 10-15 mph crosswind.

I should mention that except for sighting in a new rifle or load, I always stand on my feet to shoot. For really long ranges I will go prone. Sitting at a bench does almost nothing for your shooting skills except for maybe helping you learn trigger control and breathing. Only by trying different positions will you become a rifleman.

 

[Malamute]

A very seasoned shooter in a free stance from 200-300 yards hits a steel gong with his AK: ""Brandon401401" does so on his Youtube channel. If you don't want to watch him shoot, you Will want to watch his wife.

How many people can do that in a free stance with no other support for this type of rifle?

The last couple posts are right on. It isn't that special of a performance for one that's a decent shooter.

Shooting offhand is hard compared to other positions, but when one practices, it isn't so hard. I agree with the poster above, and shoot the majority of rifle practice offhand. If you want a challenge, shoot the 300 yard plates with your kalash like a pistol, two and one handed.

The ak's I've handled and shot were generally all accurate enough to bang steel at several hundred yards, some shot pretty well. It seems that the better made guns shot better, but I don't have enough experience with them to say how common that is. I also agree with the sentiments that if all you want is so-so/OK quality, buy the cheap guns. If you appreciate well made and fitted guns, the extra money is worthwhile. I don't believe the difference is just cosmetic.

 

[gotmine]

The bottom line is making sure everything is assembled correctly, and then keep from being fleeced by seeing pearls placed on a pig. I've got five different origins in my wad...some bought, some built by me and all that really makes one stand out from another is finish. All perform pretty much the same with some grouping better than others. Everyone does what it is designed to do with the exceptions being operator error and failing vision. I can't see dumping 600-1k on a $50.00 rifle. 3F's...fit, finish, function. No matter who put it together and what is hanging off it. It is still just an ak when you cover the name and toss the pearls away.
Save where you can and put savings towards feeding it. Just my $.02 on the matter.

 

[itsa pain]

Not real sure if I can do it with a AK as I have never tried it with one. I can hit a steel gong roughly 8-9 times out of ten with my M1A at 400 yards offhand. I was at the range a couple of years ago shooting my 1873 Trapdoor Springfield at the same 400 yard gong and hitting it about 5 out of ten times, but there was a 10-15 mph crosswind.

I should mention that except for sighting in a new rifle or load, I always stand on my feet to shoot. For really long ranges I will go prone. Sitting at a bench does almost nothing for your shooting skills except for maybe helping you learn trigger control and breathing. Only by trying different positions will you become a rifleman.

You must have unlimited ammo supply and time to hit the way you say you do. Shooting offhand is almost a waste of expensive high power ammo. Better done with a 22 oops or a pellet gun at 15 yds.

 

[nathan]

Get the Yugo N PAP and lots of ammo.

 

[DPris]

Just be warned about that stock issue in making your decision.
Price is not the only factor to consider.
Denis

 

[Crystallographer]

I built one a while back. Formed the receiver flat from 1.5mm 4130 stock, and the whole nine yards. Did this because I wanted a cartridge that ain't stock on the AK platform. It's an excellent arm, and gives me 2 MOA with the peep sight I grafted onto the rear receiver cover. If that setup was a little more rigid, I suspect I'd get better accuracy.

 

[Ignition Override]

Malamute:
To clarify, "Brandon401401" stated on his video that the only WASR modification is the Tapco trigger job.