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I have a WASR 10 AK. Whats the best way to add optics? And whats the best kind to add? I was thinking something cheap nothing fancy
 
I have the Kobra site on my AK-74 clone and it works great. I converted a Romanian Romak II and added the Kobra as the finishing touch. It already had the side rail mount.
 
No most siderails will slide on and be held in place with screws or a quick release.
 
Here's a SAR-1 (Romanian AK like your WASR) with a Kobra on the built-in siderail mount:

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IMHO, a 1x optic like the Kobra is the best match for the AK's capabilities, assuming you have decent eyesight.
 
I'd like to hear some opinions on the Ultimak rail. Spendy, but seems like a good option for a red dot. I happen to have a Yugo, and I see they make an appropriate model.
 
I got a Kobra sight for my AK last January. It was right around $200 with shipping and such. I had to pay taxes since Tantal is located in Texas.

As far as I am concerned the sight is great. The red dot shapes are easy to use and see. It is very tough and rugged. The controls are very rough and durable and simple. The only kinks are you need tools to set the zero. The knob adjustment is considered a field adjustment only. It only allows less than one turn either way. You just need a small and medium flat screw driver and the adjustment can be fine tuned pretty tight if you take some time with it. It makes it easier to shoot accurately at the shorter ranges. Much better than the crude iron sights.
Also, the letters on the sight are in Russian so you have to remember what is up,down, right, and left. :D

Either way, I intend to get at least one more.
 
I don't know how the Kobra matches up with red dot sights that are similarly priced. I imagine it is a bit tougher than most of them.

How much to good AIMpoint sights go for?
 
Kobra from Tantal aka Doug Ford
$189.95 (+ $8.00 shipping)
http://tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/

EKP-8-02

GENERATION 2 KOBRA

KALASHNIKOV SIDE MOUNT VERSION

Made in Russia by Izhevski motozavod Axion

This is the second generation variant for use with the AK rifle and Saiga shotguns. EKP-8-02 is currently under evaluation by various Russian special forces for use on the AK-74M rifle, as well as combat shotguns. Developed using feedback gained on the Chechen battlefields, this version offers improved performance and ergonomics. Out of the box, this unit will fit the side mounting plate of the AK rifles to include SAR series, Saiga based models (AK-103), Vepr I and II, Arsenal, 74MP, MPK, etc., as well as Saiga shotguns (which makes a very deadly and effective combination). It is shipped to you (in original factory packing) with a fresh battery, special adjusting tool, cleaning cloth, and manual. EKP-8-02 uses an standard 3V keyless remote/calculator coin type lithium battery.

EKP-8-02 features include a slightly raised optical lens for an unobstructed field of view, ergonomically positioned right side weatherized controls with easy to adjust sure-grip range and windage dials, weatherproofed assembly (and battery compartment), and higher cold weather performance due to the battery type.

Four improved reticle patterns (changed at the push of a button), and 16 brightness variations offers limitless flexibility. Includes a newly redesigned ballistic nylon belt carried field case currently available in Russian Woodland or MVD Taiga camouflage pattern.

Kobra EKP-8-02 will fit all forms of European AK side mounting plates. If you do not have an optics side plate on your rifle, we also carry Russian designed MPK and 74MP models, listed below. Buy the sight and side plate as a set and the side plate is sold at a discount (see below).

EKP-8-02 Kobra Gen-II combat sight for AK side mounting, 16-level brightness control, 4-pattern reticule selection, includes camo carrying case and special adjusting tool, mint new in factory packaging w/English manual SALE! $189.95 (+ $8.00 shipping) IN STOCK

http://www.tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/high/G204.jpg
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Would you happen to have the prices for the EKP-1S-03M and the PK-AS-V?

Thanks, Monty
 
The only downside to the side rail I can see is that it does cover the top cover. For the sort of rifle the AK is, the scout scope seems to make more sense to me, hence i favor the Ultimak. But that is a more expensive solution.
 
I went with a low weaver siderail and a PK-AS-W. The combination put the sight way too high and moved the center of gravity of the rifle up considerably. Getting a cheek weld was impossible and the way the rifle handled w/ the change in weight distribution sucked. I was pretty disappointed by this setup.

YMMV
 
EKP-1S-03M

GENERATION 1+ KOBRA

KALASHNIKOV SIDE MOUNT USING AA BATTERIES

Made in Russia by Izhevski motozavod Axion

This is the 2005 upgrade version of the original Kobra sight for use on the AK rifle which received numerous improvements after extensive combat use on the Chechen battlefields. EKP-1S-03M is the latest version of the original side mounting AK model using AA battery type. Versions of this sight have been identified in photographs of SPETsNAZ forces in action in Chechnya, attached to the mounts of Russian AK-74M rifles.

Model -03M has several improvements designed for severe use, including a reinforced, finned mounting bracket that offers more rigidity and strength over all previous models. Advantages over previous models include a much stronger, rock solid mounting bracket, and regular AA battery operation. It is also the only model currently offered with the popular rubber anti-glint hood, commonly referred to as a "sun shield".

Compared to other optical aids, Kobra most closely matches the performance, range, and primary strengths of the Kalashnikov rifle. It has the ability to make the shooter more effective as a small arms operator by enabling him to acquire targets more rapidly, aim without the need to align sights, and pay more attention to the surrounding field of view while keep both eyes open. We have found that most people who have tried the sight are extremely happy with it, and have become more accurate and enjoy using it over the iron sights.

Kobra is shipped to you with full accessories (in original factory packaging) to include new high quality batteries, rubber "sun shield" hood, manual, cleaning cloth and manual. This model uses standard 1.5 volt AA batteries and has 4 improved reticle patterns. Includes the newest design ballistic nylon belt carried field case in authentic Russian camouflage patterns. These will fit all forms of European AK side mounting plates (bases). If you do not have one, we also carry Russian designed mounting base installation kits.

EKP-1S-03M Kobra combat sight for AK side mounting, uses AA batteries, 16-level brightness control, 4-pattern reticule selection, includes camo carrying case, adjusting tool and rubber hood, mint new in factory packaging w/English manual SALE! $189.95 (+ $8.00 shipping) IN STOCK
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and

PK-AS-V popular "over-the-bore" model designed for AK rifles, using the popular side mounting "V" clamp, with 8-level manually adjustable brightness, fast-action MOA range adjustment cam $229.95 (+ $6.90 shipping) IN STOCK
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EKP-1S-03M Kobra combat sight for AK side mounting, uses AA batteries, 16-level brightness control, 4-pattern reticule selection, includes camo carrying case, adjusting tool and rubber hood, mint new in factory packaging w/English manual SALE! $189.95 (+ $8.00 shipping) IN STOCK
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THANKS!!! :D

Monty
 
I am very partial to Aimpoints on Ultimak rails. The Ultimak mounts are much more solid than the siderail mounts, and I find the forward-mounting optic to be very satisfying for most work inside of 200 yards.

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I really like that Kobra, I might just have to look in to one
 
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No most siderails will slide on and be held in place with screws or a quick release.
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So, what does the side rail slide on to? I'm talking about the side rail that's permanently fixed to the receiver. I know the optic mount can slide on that rail and be screwed down. Since my AK doesn't have anything on the left of the receiver, I'd need the permanent rail. How hard/$$$ is it to have one riveted or welded on? Who would be good to have that done and ensure it's mounted as straight as can be?
 
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