AL bill to renounce your 2nd amendment right

[Anchorite]

Read here for a most interesting nuance on the proposed Alabama law....
Read also: https://www.donnaslaw.com/
Pays to look beyond the obvious...

...sometimes


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This:
“Recent legislation (HB272) that was signed into law last month lifted additional restrictions for owning and carrying a firearm. Under the new legislation, a gun owner is able to have a weapon in a vehicle without a permit, and the bill revised the legal presumption that carrying a firearm is "prima facie" evidence or the intention to commit a crime of violence.”
is what all law-abiding citizens should fear ….

 

[Dinomite]

There are some in the current generation that are so stupid as to ask the government to take their guns.And to think one day they will be in government positions spreading nonsense. Well, they already are.....

 

[DustyGmt]

Yeah, I could see this becoming a big hit with the type of virtue signaling fools who video tape themselves chopping their guns in half or turning everything over to the local police dept. Smh....
Instead of "this gun WILL NEVER be responsible for the death of an innocent" it will be some idiot submitting forms and seeking praise...... yeah don't blow your elbow out patting yourself on the back buddy.

 

[Anchorite]

Yes....according to the link to the bill itself. It also states that the bill would provide a way for one to remove themselves from the list in the future, should they change their mind(exact same way they used to put themselves on the list).

So what's the real purpose? I seriously doubt if it's as nefarious as many here want to imply. Seems the way on and off the list is pretty simple, yet does not allow for anyone but the individual themselves to do it. No real direct link to red flag or court ordered scenarios. Seems to be only for folks who have been diagnosed with Alzheimer's/Dementia to protect themselves and their loved ones from the [progressive disease. May also be helpful to those who are feel depressed or have other issues in their life, where they feel unsafe having possession of firearms. While many of us can say, why not just stay away, it's not always that easy. This seems to give folks an option for a temporary scenario, without loosing their right to possess for the long term. Is it needed? I dunno, but as I read it, it will not affect anyone who does not want it to. That seems to be the biggest fear I see here.

The real “purpose” may be to circumvent due process and is another attempt to install red-flag type statutory language (if adopted and signed) into the state constitution and therefore into law that can be used to prosecute people.

 

[citizenconn]

I once knew a guy who was going through a nasty divorce, wife had moved on to another guy and he decided to sell any guns he had because he was very distraught. I imagine maybe as others pointed out, folks that are good natured and decent but find themselves at certain emotional extremes to the point where they've concerned themselves, might want to join this list? Idk. It's hard to imagine anybody going through the trouble or having themselves flagged but maybe.....

About 30 years ago, in another lifetime and before I was married, I was seeing this sweet young thing a few years older than me who one day told me that her husband had taken all of his guns over to his buddy's house to hold onto because he suspected his wife of having an affair and didn't want to go to prison should he lose control and murder her and said lover in a fit of rage. Being young and dumb and full of...beans, I did not even worry at the time. I was pretty sure I was bulletproof and imbued with the grace of God, as many young idiots do.
citizenconn

 

[wiscoaster]

It seems that the Anti-2A crowd has succeeded in changing the perception of the 2nd Amendment from an inherent right to a privilege. This was the primary argument against the Bill of Rights to begin with.

I think that the distinction between a right and a privilege has always been pretty indistinct among the general population, and it's not any particular or recent success of anti-2A groups. The fault there lies with the educational systems, and it's a long-time failing.

 

[ilbob]

The guy who does not want to exercise his second amendment rights does not have to do so. Just don't buy possess or carry firearms. The state should not be involved in these kinds of things.

 

[Anchorite]

I think that the distinction between a right and a privilege has always been pretty indistinct among the general population, and it's not any particular or recent success of anti-2A groups. The fault there lies with the educational systems, and it's a long-time failing.

I tend to agree. It’s a “privilege” if it can be licensed, or taxed. Otherwise it’s a right, and a distinction few consider.

 

[Zerodefect]

It's so they can pressure people into recinding their rights.

Just like they did with the vax. Recind your rights, or you cant work here, shop here, or eat here.