All 1911s are the same - they just have different names on them.

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"All 1911s are the same - they just have different names on them."

That is an exact quote from a salesman at one of my local gun shops this morning. I went in and asked for an estimated date of arrival on a Ruger 1911. I guess it was his attempt to sell me one of his 1911s he had in stock.

I really like the new Rugers, but I don't know how long I'll have to wait. I'm really liking the Magnum Research 1911 and have read good things about it.

I'm in the market for my first 1911.
 
I'm in the market for my first 1911.
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Good luck with your Ruger....Sometimes Ruger jumps in with certain models that they wish they had better foresight before selling; recalls specifically.
I can't knock it, have to give it a try. Colt, as far as I'm concerned, set the benchmark....Just ask ARIZONA, now the official firearm for the state.
Thanks Twiki, I stand corrected...It was too good to be true....
 
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Yeah, that's not true. I don't know that much about them, never owned one, can't say I've even fired one (haven't been able to to much magazine trading at ranges), but even I know that's a load of somethig stinky.

Wait for the gun you really want, if you research more and decide you want a different 1911, cool, but it sounds like you're on the right track, holding off for the gun you decided on.
 
By the time the new Ruger comes out

you will have had time to save up for it. Ruger makes a good gun, I've owned over 30 of them through the years, but I don't think I would wait around with so many other good guns out there right now. I own Kimbers Taurus and Rock Island 1911's. They are all good guns. The Rock Island Tactical for around $500 is a very good deal. The Taurus are great guns and much more attractive than the Rock Island guns in stainless or Duotone. You could also buy one of the new enhaced Smith and wessons for about the same price. Buy one and make the Ruger your second or your third 1911. I am up to 10 right now so it may well be my 13th or 14th by the time they hit the market.:evil:
 
Yeah the 1911 is Utah's state gun...and AFAIK, they don't even specify Colt...just Browning and M1911
 
"All 1911s are the same - they just have different names on them."
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"All pickup trucks are the same - they just have different names on them."

Sure they are... :uhoh: :rolleyes:

Sometimes 1911 style pistols look the same, but they aren't. Internally, and in terms of materials and workmanship there are big differences, and you can't always see them. For now, save your money, and do some in-depth research. Also consider finding a different dealer.
 
*Climbs into flame retardant suit.*

They all look the same to me.
 
They may look similar but that is not the case. Pick up a couple, handle them, fire them and you will feel the differences. That is not to say that some smaller companies do not make a great 1911. I have a Doublestar 1911 that is my favorite handgun.
 
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They may look similar but that is not the case. Pick up a couple, handle them, fire them and you will feel the differences. That is not to say that some smaller companies do not make a great 1911. I have a Doublestar 1911 that is my favorite handgun.
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After firing a Springfield 1911 and two Kimber 1911s I still don't see the difference except the Springfield didn't hang up every two or three shots. I dunno call me crazy but I've always thought that the 1911s all looked generic and they've never really stood out to me.

I guess the same could be said of many polymer guns as well though so to each his own.
 
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Just because the basic design is the same doesn't mean the love and attention to detail put into manufacturing and assembly are the same.
 
I really like the new Rugers, but I don't know how long I'll have to wait.
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Ruger says they'll be on the market May 2011. That usually means they'll be allocated to certain customers from the distributors and you'll be lucky to see one in your gun shop this year. As with any limited supply firearm the price will be higher for at least a year but you always overpay for having the latest and greatest.

In many ways your salesman is right in that the Ruger is just another mass produced gun, likely no better than any of the other good ones out there from S&W, Kimber, and other quality cloners. If you want something special then you'll have to invest in a custom or mass produced custom.
 
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Yes it is essentially the same design, but different materials, configurations, quality of manufacture, and customer service are all things which set M1911 manufacturers apart.
 
Color me surprised

I looked on Gunbroker a week or so ago and there was not one listed. I looked last night and there were several. The prices on most if not all were above suggested retail so I would rush out and buy one just yet. Give it a month and the prices should go down.
 
I own a springfield armory custom. Will never part with it. Shot several Kimbers, and loved them.
I would buy from a company that has been making 1911s for a while and has a great rep. I would also buy the best I could afford. Buy once, buy well and don't look back.
 
This is why you allways have to carry a Teir 1 Tactical Sharpie marker to all gun stores and gun shows.....








So you can reach across the counter and draw a big X on his forehead.
 
Yes it is essentially the same design, but different materials, configurations, quality of manufacture, and customer service are all things which set M1911 manufacturers apart.
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I think this is a pretty valid summation. Whether the pistol has internal or external extractors seems to be a point of contention for many 1911 aficionados, but even when entertaining this distinction, I believe most 1911 pistols have "essentially the same design."
 
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