I don't own a "black rifle", but I don't care what guns you might own. I don't care what you hunt with, as long as you're not poaching in any manner. All of my long guns fall under the "traditional" sporting gun, whatever that means. Does that automatically classify me as a Fudd? I have shot ARs at the range a few times, and have considered getting one, but living in California really limits me as to what I can own, and it doesn't seem worth the hassle to me. To the purists out there, exactly what is the definition of a Fudd? I suppose you could call me an old fuddydud, being 50 years old, but a Fudd? Just curious. Peace and God bless, Wolfsong.
Am I a Fudd?
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Wes Janson
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A fudd would be a hunter who feels that "black rifles" and such are unsporting and have no place in the hands of civilians. Such a person may also think gun control groups will be appeased if such firearms are banned, and will not therefore come after their own hunting guns. In general, while they are gun owners they have no knowledge or concern about the 2nd Amendment beyond being able to partake of their particular sport.
At least, that's how I'd define it.
At least, that's how I'd define it.
Full Clip
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"Fudd" is a state of mind, not what guns you own.
Ryder
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I would think Fudd is a measure of your competance with a firearm. I have more traditiional style guns than military styles. Does that make me Halfudd?
ArfinGreebly
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Not A Fudd
You would not be a Fudd.
You would be something we call a "hunter."
Moreover, if you enjoy range time for the sheer joy of making small groups of holes in paper and cans, then you would also be a "shooter."
And a hunter/shooter is a fine thing to be.
We have another term of endearment for people who are either hunters or shooters and who have an appreciation for the workmanship and quality and art of their weapons, and an interest in the weapons themselves.
We call them "gunnies" around these parts.
Welcome to The High Road.
You would not be a Fudd.
You would be something we call a "hunter."
Moreover, if you enjoy range time for the sheer joy of making small groups of holes in paper and cans, then you would also be a "shooter."
And a hunter/shooter is a fine thing to be.
We have another term of endearment for people who are either hunters or shooters and who have an appreciation for the workmanship and quality and art of their weapons, and an interest in the weapons themselves.
We call them "gunnies" around these parts.
Welcome to The High Road.
10 Ring Tao
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If you have a live and let live attitude, you're just a hunter. You become a fudd if you think your $#!t don't stink, anything other than your wood stocked hunting guns are unnecessary, and don't care if the evil black rifles get banned.
Its an elitism that divides the gun community in ways that make the brady bunch dance with joy. That elitism only serves to divide us, making it so much easier for the antigunners to conquer us.
Its an elitism that divides the gun community in ways that make the brady bunch dance with joy. That elitism only serves to divide us, making it so much easier for the antigunners to conquer us.
AlaskaErik
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What am I?
I don't own a hunting rifle nor do I hunt. I do own a Bushmaster AR-15 and a Mossberg 500 tactical shotgun. So what does that make me?
Just for the record, I believe those who want to hunt or trap should be able to do so with the least possible amount of interference from government.
I don't own a hunting rifle nor do I hunt. I do own a Bushmaster AR-15 and a Mossberg 500 tactical shotgun. So what does that make me?
Just for the record, I believe those who want to hunt or trap should be able to do so with the least possible amount of interference from government.
Brian Dale
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Wolfsong,
You're fine.
AlaskaErik, what you own does not define who you are. It sounds like you're a shooter.
At the other end of the spectrum from the "Fudd" is probably the "tacticool mall ninja." This is one who accumulates cool gear instead of learning to shoot well, supporting gun rights, supporting other shooting disciplines and so forth.
The guns are just tools. Hunting is a sport. Your character is more important than both.
The name comes from "Elmer Fudd," not from the term "old fuddyduddy."
You're fine.
AlaskaErik, what you own does not define who you are. It sounds like you're a shooter.
At the other end of the spectrum from the "Fudd" is probably the "tacticool mall ninja." This is one who accumulates cool gear instead of learning to shoot well, supporting gun rights, supporting other shooting disciplines and so forth.
The guns are just tools. Hunting is a sport. Your character is more important than both.
K3
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What would you call someone who likes to hunt with EBRs?
stevetexas
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SMART and MODERN
Each time styles change, in dresses or in weapons, some people are slow to update their attitudes.
Today, even a lot of bolt guns etc come with black stocks.
Each time styles change, in dresses or in weapons, some people are slow to update their attitudes.
Today, even a lot of bolt guns etc come with black stocks.
K3
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Hehe, I like that. ARs make fine varmint rifles, and they're not too shabby for little trans-pecos deer.
geekWithA.45
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That statement distinguishes you from a Fudd.
My father is a supporter of the 2nd. He didn't like guns, based on his personal decision that they were not for him, but he fully supported the right of others to decide differently.
In the same way, one can believe that one's religion is the one true divine truth, and that all other believers are in hellbound error, and yet still support freedom of religion, by acknowledging the right of others to choose differently.
With regards to speech, the parallel sentiment is that "I may not agree with what you say, but will defend your right to say it".
The Fuddite fails to understand the underlying truth of all that as applied to arms.
If you understand that the pro-AWB crowd want to take all guns away from everyone regardless of whether they're blue/wood bolt guns or stainless/synthetic internal mag rifles or EBRs or pistols then you are not a "Fudd".
A Fudd, a nod to the clueless cartoon character Elmer Fudd, doesn't care if my AR 15 is banned as long as his Remington 7400 isn't banned. A Fudd doesn't recognize that the folks banning my AR 15 will eventually legislate his Remington 7400 out of his hands. Then they'll legislate the 30.30 lever guns away by criminalizing the ammunition. Then they'll legislate the S&W .44 mag he carries with him in the woods hunting away because it's a handgun. Eventually, he'll be sitting in the hunting camp with his bolt gun complaining about ammunition prices and new guns being so expensive only "rich folks" can afford to go hunting and he still won't realize that because he didn't care when they came for my gun that he was participating in the eventual destruction of all shooting sports and the right to self defense and political freedom.
Use of the term becomes a problem when it becomes a blind epithet hurled by EBR-lovers who don't descriminate between the hunters that actively want to throw 7.62 NATO AR 10s to the wolves to protect their .308 Browning BAR and the folks that just haven't been informed of the threat.
A Fudd, a nod to the clueless cartoon character Elmer Fudd, doesn't care if my AR 15 is banned as long as his Remington 7400 isn't banned. A Fudd doesn't recognize that the folks banning my AR 15 will eventually legislate his Remington 7400 out of his hands. Then they'll legislate the 30.30 lever guns away by criminalizing the ammunition. Then they'll legislate the S&W .44 mag he carries with him in the woods hunting away because it's a handgun. Eventually, he'll be sitting in the hunting camp with his bolt gun complaining about ammunition prices and new guns being so expensive only "rich folks" can afford to go hunting and he still won't realize that because he didn't care when they came for my gun that he was participating in the eventual destruction of all shooting sports and the right to self defense and political freedom.
Use of the term becomes a problem when it becomes a blind epithet hurled by EBR-lovers who don't descriminate between the hunters that actively want to throw 7.62 NATO AR 10s to the wolves to protect their .308 Browning BAR and the folks that just haven't been informed of the threat.
Wesson Smith
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Man, your post said it all. The perfect, concise definition. Thanks.
Man, your post said it all. The perfect, concise definition. Thanks.
Axman
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I think you're alright, even if you have a strong desire to head to the woods to "wangle wascally wabbits!"
HonorsDaddy
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May i suggest...
...rather than using the term "fudd", perhaps we should start calling those people "zumbo"?
...rather than using the term "fudd", perhaps we should start calling those people "zumbo"?
romma
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If you can tie both your barrels in a knot before you squeeze the trigger having the gun blow black sooty powder all over your face, then you are a Fudd...
Lonestar.45
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LOL. Those terms do seem to be interchangeable, don't they?
MrDig
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I don't Own EBR's either
I do support a persons choice, If you like them and shoot them fine, I got my fill at FT Dix NJ and just can't bring myself to Spend money on one.
The contradiction is I like 1911A1s and will spend money on them. Go figure
I do support a persons choice, If you like them and shoot them fine, I got my fill at FT Dix NJ and just can't bring myself to Spend money on one.
The contradiction is I like 1911A1s and will spend money on them. Go figure
Brian Dale
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DingDingDingDingDinggg! We have a winner!
You've got it, HonorsDaddy--no "perhaps" about it.
Well Done.
JGordon
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Yup, I'm a noobie, I just stumbled upon this thread while trying to find out what happened to Ross Seyfried at Wolfe.
A Fudd is the guy who goes out to the range the Saturday before opening day. He's wearing a dirty blaze orange baseball cap and a flannel shirt with yesterday's breakfast eggs on the front. He's carrying a bottom of the line bolt action Remington from Wal-Mart that he cleans every season with a shot of WD-40 down the barrel and a box of ammo he bought two seasons ago with ten rounds left.
He duct tapes a paper plate to the 50 yard target stand and sends three rounds downrange. Two hit somewhere on the plate. He smiles and says "Yup, she's still sighted in." He picks up his rifle and seven rounds of ammo leaving his brass and paper plate for someone else to clean up.
As he walks out he passes the guy with the $3500 AR that he's spent 4 years tuning, punching dime-sized holes at 200 yards. Fudd says to him "Those guns are for drug dealers and should be outlawed. Nobody needs a machine gun."
Those folks really do exist. A lot of them.
Regards
A Fudd is the guy who goes out to the range the Saturday before opening day. He's wearing a dirty blaze orange baseball cap and a flannel shirt with yesterday's breakfast eggs on the front. He's carrying a bottom of the line bolt action Remington from Wal-Mart that he cleans every season with a shot of WD-40 down the barrel and a box of ammo he bought two seasons ago with ten rounds left.
He duct tapes a paper plate to the 50 yard target stand and sends three rounds downrange. Two hit somewhere on the plate. He smiles and says "Yup, she's still sighted in." He picks up his rifle and seven rounds of ammo leaving his brass and paper plate for someone else to clean up.
As he walks out he passes the guy with the $3500 AR that he's spent 4 years tuning, punching dime-sized holes at 200 yards. Fudd says to him "Those guns are for drug dealers and should be outlawed. Nobody needs a machine gun."
Those folks really do exist. A lot of them.
Regards
JGordon,
Welcome to THR!
What you've described is the lowest form of Fudd and probably the most common (Fuddis Vulgaris), but the guy in the safari coat or the english shooting jacket carrying a $15,000 rifle or shotgun that says the same thing is also a Fudd. They come in all shapes, sizes, incomes and shooting levels. Their common character is that they think Their sport is somehow better than ours and that the guns used in ours should be allowed to legislated away.
Welcome to THR!
What you've described is the lowest form of Fudd and probably the most common (Fuddis Vulgaris), but the guy in the safari coat or the english shooting jacket carrying a $15,000 rifle or shotgun that says the same thing is also a Fudd. They come in all shapes, sizes, incomes and shooting levels. Their common character is that they think Their sport is somehow better than ours and that the guns used in ours should be allowed to legislated away.
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